“...my interest in slaying dragons, and to her I have this hobby, so it is difficult for me to convey how precious it is for me to hear when someone acknowledges my work as being valid work.”
Joe, you have helped me thru many hard places, into many hard places, and to begin to find ways to get out of hard places. Today I had the thought that you are like the big brother I never had. I am the oldest child of our family. I had a brother 2 and a half years younger who was killed in a house fire when he was 29 and I was 31. We had not yet found a way to be close, but he called me within a week or 2 before his sudden death and we had such a nice conversation. I think we were finding our way there. It is a precious gift that we had that conversation before he left this world. Both of my sisters are very busy with work and raising families. My mom and I are close and Jeff and I are close. It is lonely though being a Pastor’s wife in a small town in the sense that I keep a lot of things bottled up: Stresses and pressures that I dare not share with people because they are too close to situations. Sometimes I feel like I have no voice. So having this outlet to at least carry on discussions is a comfort to me. When I started to wake up I had no one. You being willing to take the time to help me understand and to listen to me are beyond words for me. I wonder if people get attached to people that help them thru the wake up process? I say that because when there is no one to validate the fact that there IS something wrong, and one is all alone while everyone else is oblivious to the reality that has been craftily hidden from view, and no one wants to hear about it as if it is cold water, it is a very lonely place to be. When I started waking up I was horrified or perhaps the better word is terrified. Terrified and no one else around me would admit that there was a problem.
I think things are different now though. The problem is not so craftily hidden and I think speaking truth begins to not be such cold water when the evidence becomes apparent. Joe, you have a very special gift to be able to use correct words. Like Legal Criminals. I forget what you call using correct language. But is a very powerful thing to do and to have command of. I remember the first time I used the word “we” loosely. You called me out on that. You have helped me separate myself from the “we” that is doing things that I don’t do. I suppose I could go on and on.
Is very interesting. I never understood why you called Shays a slave because in my mind the only slaves in America were the black slaves. I used to not not even understand your words, but I eventually came to understand them, and today I understand them better. I read the words you posted from that link yesterday, but I could not understand them. They were too hard for me to make sense of. Today I read them again and understand them better. These words:
“That we would risk every possible consequence. That from anarchy and confusion, order might arise. That slavery was the worst that could ensue, and we considered the system proposed to be the most complete, most abject system of slavery that the wit of man ever devised, under pretense of forming a government for free States.”
So they threaten anarchy and slavery when in fact slavery is what they were offering and I am going to add the words…without anarchy. Nice peaceful tame slavery. Sign on the dotted line slavery. Not gun point slavery.
And then these words:
“During this debate we were threatened, that if we did not agree to the system propose, we never should have an opportunity of meeting in convention to deliberate on another, and this was frequently urged.”
They were threatened that they would have another chance (no wonder you always use the words resort to falsehood, threats of voilence and deceit [or something like that].
“In fine, Sir, all those threats were treated with contempt, and they were told, that we apprehended but one reason to prevent the States meeting again in convention; that, when they discovered the part this convention had acted, and how much its members were abusing the trust reposed in them, the States would never trust another convention.”
But Joe, do you know who is talking in those quotes? They could see so clearly the problem, why did they let it pass? I’d like to know the list of the names that make up the “they” and the list of the names that make up the “we.” I suppose I need to read the whole document. I noticed that one can listen to it!!! Computer voice, but I can handle that. I will probably start listening to it this week. Thank you for the link. I like listening because I can do other things at the same time.
“The First Con Con was the example set to prove how evil evil can get if allowed. The people will end up providing the means by which we suffer.
The most effective part of that deception, in my opinion, is the idea that no government can ever work in any way, and therefore We The People must send our earnings to evil people so that evil people grow more numerous and more powerful, while the honest productive people grow steadily weaker.”
Yes, as sign on the dotted line, hamster-wheel slaves.
"You see, do you see bear, the False Gods, the False Federalists won so completely, so absolutely won, in that first Con Con, that they now make everyone think that all government is bad, and now people think that no good can ever come from honest people representing honest people.”
Joe, I take issue you with the word “everyone.” I do not think everyone thinks that government cannot work. I think Anarchists think that government cannot work. I think a lot of people still believe in abject falsehood because they are mesmerized by the trinkets in their hamster cage and they do not even know they are caged slaves. Actually up until a year ago, I never even knew there were people who advocated no government at all. It is a hard concept for me to even imagine.
“The Legal Criminals won so absolutely, in that first Con Con Con Job, that the fears of the true representatives of Free Market Voluntary Government, like Mason, and Henry, and the author of those words, a witness to the Secret Proceedings, had their worse fears realized because they lost the battle to MOLD the behavior of the people they represented. “
I cannot understand these words: “because they lost the battle to MOLD the behavior of the people they represented.”
Can you explain them to me?
“The honest representatives offer the truth, the stark naked truth. The False Federalists offered campaign promises that would be broken. Hamilton's National Debt, which was a lie itself, since the bankers actually borrow from The People, and then the bankers claim that The People borrow from the bankers.”
And the people don’t even know it…a case of abject belief in falsehood?
“Don't you see how that works? The Criminals volunteer to be Benevolent Dictators and then they lock the door once they gain that POWER.”
And that is why I am afraid of change because sometimes the new criminals are not as benevolent. They are dictators of the worse kind and they are that kind very fast if not from the start. It seems to me that we have a bill of rights. That bill of rights gave the people the “key” to the locked door in a sense. But now the criminals are taking the key and as soon as they take the guns they will throw away the key, IMO. But Joe, that has taken 200+ years. Look at places with immediate dictators who begin the purge at the start.,.and as I say those words I think of small pox blankets and the trail of tears. Black men, women and children held in bondage thru no fault of their own. But Joe, in the civil war people were not lined up and shot like they were in Germany. The leaders of the confederate army were not strung up at the end of the war. They wre not treated as war criminals. So it is hard for me to place the united States in the same category with other places where The Routine has been exercised. I think though, that we may be seeing that shortly, here?
“It is an inside Joke, and even Ron Paul may be the mark, the victim, the one who is subject to the Joke, as if by some magic the targets can't see the truth despite ample warnings.”
I cannot understand those words. Can you please explain them to me?
“Can we have a good version of a Constitutional Convention?
I think the answer is such that failure to do so will be the ruin of mankind: on schedule.
The bad Con Con continues to provide the means by which we suffer to Legal Criminals and the end result is human extinction or worse, as World War III plays out, and The New World Reserve Currency Power, probably based in Asia, collects "our" National Debt here at home, for our part in that new Holocaust we financed with our earnings.
States effectively sever the connection between The People and Legal Crime at the False Federal Level, and Civil War is averted (even the name Civil War would be a lie), and the new State representatives find agreement in combining Separate State POWERS into one defensive POWER, so We The People return to a Voluntary Free Market Government Design as they are designed to work the way they do work, as The People demand and then get what they pay for, without being subject to deception, threats of violence, and violence perpetrated by the FALSE governors who fail to represent The People on purpose for their exclusive profit.”
But Joe, who is going to keep the wolves in sheep’s clothing from showing up at a new con con and making the situation worse. Isn’t it true that right now we have a government (I think of the words: why do we call it OUR government?) not abiding by the law of the land? They are ignoring it. Why can’t we just make them abide by the constitution. What would happen if the constitution was reset but the declaration of independence was made part of it and therefore all would be on equal footing and there would be no 3/5 Dirty Compromise?
How do you think the Criminals would ever allow a peaceful con con?
Would they even allow the restoration of constitutional government?
In my way of thinking they would be the ones leading a new con con, as in leading the opposition.
I suppose I needed to ask those questions in order to remember
1) End the Fed
2) End the IRS
3) Bring the Troops Home
4) Do so by July 4, 2013, or in the least, before it is too late.
Quit feeding the criminals...but Joe, they will still be criminals looking for a free meal. Even if we quite feeding them, they are already powerful. They print their own money at will. They buy wars. They don't even need us anymore for power because the cloak that We the People provided has been shed.
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