"may be that should be the ultimate goal"
Sounds to me like he agrees with Thoreau:
"I heartily accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which I also believe,—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”