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This is excellent

Great summary , faithkillis. It really does all come down to logic, and understanding how to think and deduce logically. Once one develops this skill argumentation becomes both much easier (it's easy to spot logical fallaceis) and more frustrating.

As you said, when those that don't use logic have their arguments destroyed and then think they've been "tricked" because they just can't or won't think logically. Yelling and screaming , straw men and ad hominem attacks ensue.
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