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My Koran book is by Phoenix publishers, c. 1909, is translated by JM Rodwell with a foreword and introduction by Alan Jones, The Orient Institute, Oxford. I mostly picked it 'cause of its cool cover, A Manuscript of the Koran, c. 1425 Persian school, from the Detroit Institute of Arts. Yeah, pretty shallow.

I pulled it out to verify its contents. Mohammad was born in Mecca and moved to Medina to spread his message he received from the arch angel, Gabriel. In Medina he expelled three Jewish tribes resistant to his religion. He proceeded to engage in battles and negotiations with tribal leaders to force conversion to Islam on their subjects. He engaged in these activities until his death. He would try to avoid bloodshed but used the threat of violence to contract the leaders of various tribes. This is what the introductions claims. I grabbed some random excerpts from Wiki that back up this claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kudr_Invasion

"So Muhammad responded by launching a pre-emptive strike against their base in Al Kudr. When the tribe heard of this, they fled. Muhammad captured 500 of their camels from the raid, and distributed it between his fighters. He also kept a fifth of the spoils."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qaynuqa

"Muhammad divided the property of the Banu Qaynuqa, including their arms and tools, among his followers, taking for the Islamic state a fifth share of the spoils for the first time. Some members of the tribe chose to stay in Medina and convert to Islam, possibly more out of opportunism than conviction. One man from the Banu Qaynuqa, Abdullah ibn Sailam, became a devout Muslim. Although some Muslim sources claim that he converted immediately after Muhammad’s arrival to Medina, modern scholars give more credence to the other Muslim sources, which indicate that 8 years later, 630, as the year of ibn Salam’s conversion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Thi_Amr

"The Invasion of Dhi Amr (Arabic: غزوة ذي أمر‎),[1] also known as the Raid on Ghatafan,[2] occurred directly after the Invasion of Sawiq in the year 3 A.H of the Islamic calendar, September 624.[3][4] The expedition was ordered by Muhammad after he received intelligence that the Banu Muharib and Banu Talabah tribes, were planning to raid the outskirts of Madinah. Therefore, Muhammad launched a per-empetitive strike with 450 men."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hamra_al-Asad

"After staying at Hamra al-Asad for three days, Muhammad returned to Medina. He captured Abu Azzah al-Jumahi as prisoner. Abu Azzah had previously been one of the prisoners of Badr. Abu 'Azzah 'Amr bin 'Abd Allah al-Jumahi had been treated kindly by Muhammad after the Battle of Badr, being a poor man with daughters, he had no means to pay ransom, he was released after Battle of Badr, on the condition that he would not take up arms against Muslims again. But he had broken his promise and participated in Battle of Uhud. He pleaded for mercy again, but Muhammad ordered him to be killed. Az-Zubair executed him, and in another version, Asim bin Thabit."

There is a timeline of the spreading of Islam during Mohammad's life here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet_Mohammad

I do not claim to know anything about it. I am really curious about it though. It is hard to imagine a person that uses force to disseminate his ideas may have had that great of a message. But I am not interested enough to plow through ancient texts more than I have to see what all the hoopla is all about.

I appreciate that anyone, religious or not, want to improve their character and appreciate All That Is. I did experience this while visiting Muslim countries.

Please do not take offense at my questions. I am interested in learning more about it. It seems like Muslims would be up in arms (bad choice of words) over Wiki's historic facts if they believed them to be false. I remember the Salman Rushdy fiasco as well as the Danish cartoon outrage.

So where have you traveled over there? Are you living in the US now? Where are you parents (RIP and I am sorry for your loss) from?