Comment: OK so as a cop trainer this one has a lot of wrong all over it

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OK so as a cop trainer this one has a lot of wrong all over it

but can you tell me the first, foremost and initial fault on the part of the officer?

She allowed herself to personalize the situation. Suddenly a challenge to the rules of her employer became secondary to her feeling of being challenged in authority and she didn't take the early chances to de-escalate the situation.

Part of the moral of this story is cop training these days has taken the emphasis off de-escalation and into the real of "pain compliance" and "full spectrum domination". So the very first thing I wish to point out is that this officer was failed in training by her trainers. And one thing that should have been made abundantly clear is the LIMITS OF OUR AUTHORITY AS UNIFORMED SECURITY OFFICERS. Rule number one: we're not cops. Rule number two, we're not cops.

The role of a uniformed and unarmed security officer is the following:

1. Instruct
2. Observe
3. Report

We're not supposed to directly intervene or create or contribute to a hostile situaion, we're supposed to call the cops.


1. Instruct the people that they are on private property and policy states that photography is not allowed.

2. Seeing the people non compliant she should have reported a situation beyond the scope of her control and request PD assistence.

3. It would have been really nice if she then fell back to basic traffic control and helping keep people out of the way of traffic and maintaining order INSTEAD OF ENDING UP IN A FRACAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

Because that was like totally NOT the end result that was helpful right? I mean come on. Seriously? And she allowed herself to get tactically dominated? If she had a real sidarm in that situation, we;; that is like THE ABSOLUTE WORST SCENARIO FOR AN OFFICER. You get dominated, disarmed and killed with your own weapon and NOW WE HAVE A WEAPON IN THE HANDS OF A HOMICIDAL PERSON. That is totally NOT what we want to have happen.

An officer in trouble should almost always retreat in the face of overwhelming force and call for backup.

So what do I think of the offier in question?

Well first off she's got a pair huh? Dang I'm attracted to women like that and when her hat came off she had this just gorgeous head of blond hair and she looked a whole lot more pretty without the hat. But beyond that, as a trainer, that's something I can work with. She's proactive as hellinabucket. She's a dead-ringer for retraining or as I see it, she never had real training to begin with but she's sure got the attitude. With real training she could be a great officer.

Hey some of us screw it up the first few times. I didn't get to be a trainer over night, I got like decades of experience and a lot of it was learning from mistakes. And getting it drilled into me again and again and again, there are 3 things that get cops killed:

1. Making false assumptions.

2. Poor positioning.

3. Relaxing too soon.

Now if I might ask in my humble way that you guys not universally beat the crap out of this officer in training? Try to see her as a person and we actually need more like her. She needs training and self confidence building especially after this. Not hate. She could turn out to be a really great officer. With some help.

Can I ask you that?

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