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I agree we cannot create moral law.

Our duty to god, or humanity, is to discover it.

To do this we must first recognize that, being imperfect, we can only improve our understanding, never perfect our understanding.

You have faith morality is of divine nature, and possibly immorality is of infernal nature.

I have reason to think that morality is of our nature, whatever the source. Seeing no evidence of divine, I still see that we humans do seem to care a lot about good and evil, and have learned a lot about recognizing it. For some, seeing it exists is enough to draw conclusions about it's origin, though not for me.

Whatever it's source, I think we agree it does exist, and it is not ours to define, only discern and document.

My first and primary observation is this: Given humans have evil, or I would say predation, inherently and perpetually in our nature, it is a miracle of no small import that so much of what we do is done harmoniously and without conflict.

The extremely vast majority of human interaction occurs between people who choose to do so without any violence in the equation. This is (small c) creation.

The vast majority of evil occurs from the seeds of violence either directly, through common crime, or mass murder or slavery which inevitably results from allowing just a little bit of systemic ie legal, violence into the society. This is predation.

We like to think there are wolves, wolfhounds, and sheep. Both wolves and wolfhounds seem to sleep better when the sheep aren't armed.

But the sheep don't sleep better.

So I don't think there are any sheep or wolfhounds. I think there are humans, armed and disarmed. And some disarmed try to delude themselves they are safer for being disarmed, and certainly all armed try to convince the disarmed they are somehow safer.


Ceding it is irresponsible and dangerous, and in degree of that cession.

The thing you cannot ever do is cede your responsibility to be moral. Your moral authority is either innate, or given to you in trust by God. Either way you have no ability to delegate moral authority. Unlike a federal reserve note, responsibility for your actions is neither refundable nor transferable. Perhaps when you die, God will relieve you of this burden. Perhaps. But for this life, it is yours and none other's.

If you cede your ability to act on that responsibility you are aiding evil. You were not given moral authority in order to do nothing to affect good and evil in this world. Delegating power to act, delegating and paying for, men with guns to act in your name does not negate your responsibility for their actions.

But it does certainly increase the risk there will be evil to be responsible for. That is yours forever. Giving away power doesn't negate your burden of sin for what others do with that power. Honestly, I can't conclude other than that giving it away at all, ever, must be immoral. You likely wouldn't go that far.

But I do hope you might consider developing a habit of giving serious analysis to progressive/predatory/statist urges, which we all have, in that light. In giving away your power, you aren't giving away burden.

By way of example: before we send men with guns to put other men into rape cages for doing a different drug than we do, we better be damned sure this is the right thing. We better be sure the voice telling us to force others to conform to our opinion.. isn't from somewhere darker.

Because we do know one thing. The miracle of human peaceful cooperation occurs all around us every day. That seems to be a very large clue being handed to us over and over and over.

The results of giving away our individual ability to act on our moral responsibility also seem very apparent and we see this shown to us over and over and over.

It's almost as if we're supposed to be learning something.