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I agree with you

I found myself in a discussion with a relative about the recent NSA revelations and Eric Snowden. They feel the NSA is perfectly ok to do whatever they want, and Snowden is a traitor.

I asked them "What does America stand for? What are it's core ideals?"

The constitution was the answer, as I see it also.

I found myself with only philosophical arguments about it and its intent.

I found their arguments as flimsy as tissue paper, though. "Well, lets chuck it all, and go back to 1857". Ok, end of discussion, I get it, change topic. ;)

Just open the box and see