Comment: Ok, I can respect your point of view.

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Ok, I can respect your point of view.

I'm not sure I agree, but you've made a counter argument which the conversation benefits from immensely. I'd rather see principled civil disobedience at all levels, which I see as way more effective in the long term than a strategy of compliance and enablement with the hopes of some secret ninja strike from the inside.

What Ron did which was effective is that the shined a light on issues and brought the American people into the debate. Now this strategy didn't get bad bills defeated, and maybe it didn't even get good bills passed; but what it did do was to build a greater educated public.

The problem here with Rand's strategy is that the bad bill was still passed, and there was no outcry to with which the public could have been educated, there was no light shinned on the loss of liberty, and so I see no progress here.