And no, Rand doesn't do it for me. The political route isn't going to save us. We will have to save ourselves after SHTF. The age old cycle of rising and falling societies will take it's course once again before people are willing to try something fresh; it is a prerequisite for people caring. It is unfortunate, but half-assing won't work. Expecting Rand to change the course of our history is like trying to hold back a tidal wave with a cardboard box. Ron had it right. The only hope is to change hearts and minds with ideas... this was the only ace up our sleeve. Rand's "political" method is like trying to beat the "House" in Las Vegas.