I totally hear you.
Here's the collectivist / socialist / liberal / group think, in one sentence :
"You better find normal to give stuff to the groups I have deemed important, or I'll have my buddies make laws to force you at gun point, you selfish individualist monster!"
Sounds about right, or did I miss something?
(as for communists, they are either mere downright thugs or braindead beggars)
You're much welcome, but hey:
All credits for the debunking should go to men like Frederic Bastiat or Benjamin Constant... 150+ years ago.
(Granted, I'm only a nobody who can read and speak in English or French the 10 page booklet of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that fits on 1 page. Our liberal friends know so much better than we do, of course.)
'Hope it helps,
"Cope with them."
"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.
"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius
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