Comment: Oh i'm not saying Zimmerman

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Oh i'm not saying Zimmerman

was guilty of murder. At the time he shot I fully beleive he did so in self defence.

But my point is, at the time that Zimmerman was profiling him, which he was by his own admission, Martin was committing no crime, and had Zimmerman not followed him, or called the police, Martin would have ended up at home, alive, and still committing no crime.

My point is really simple. Martin was innocent of every crime up to and until the point that Zimmerman decided to pursue him. Zimmerman was the first actor in this case.

So ultimately, no, it really does not matter if Martin was "a thug", because at that point, he was committing no crime, he was just being a black kid in a hoodie.