Comment: We have a problem of definitions

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We have a problem of definitions

Government is not the state. I hate the state, because it is an excuse for 'legal' plunder, as Bastiat said there are two means of providing for yourself you can produce goods or services or you can steal them, you can be a common theif or you can use the political means, the state to take from the producers and give the ill gotten gains to others or yourself.

Do not conflate society and government and the state they are distinct.

Thomas Paine 1776 Common Sense
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SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.