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"What do you mean? I am curious to what you mean here. Why be so cryptic and open ended? Why not just say what you mean?"

I am accused of having done wrong?

Example:

"It occurs to me often to realize that as soon as a human being realizes a good, honest, productive, life sustaining, idea there are people who then have more ammo to be used to hide their crimes."

If that is an example of having done wrong, of having written something cryptic, of having failed to "must say what you mean" then you offer that discredit to me, and to anyone else reading this discussion.

What I meant had to do with any good thing.

An idea is a good thing.

What makes a good thing a good thing?

Honest is good.

Example:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&sta...

"The ancient maxim makes the sum of a man’s legal duty to his fellow men to be simply this: “To live honestly, to hurt no one, to give to every one his due.”

"This entire maxim is really expressed in the single words, to live honestly; since to live honestly is to hurt no one, and give to every one his due."

It occurs to me often to realize that as soon as a human being realizes a good, honest, productive...

Is productivity a good thing?

It occurs to me often to realize that as soon as a human being realizes a good, honest, productive, life sustaining...

Are life sustaining things a good thing?

It occurs to me often to realize that as soon as a human being realizes a good, honest, productive, life sustaining, idea there are people who then have more ammo to be used to hide their crimes.

Criminals use things to hide their crimes, yes or no?

Do criminals use good things or bad things to hide their crimes?

How about an example?

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transc...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

How does that good thing manage to hide this:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_trans...

"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;"

I am being cryptic again?

How can I ever know when I, me, Joe Kelley, is the source of this "being cryptic" or speaking nonsense, or who knows what else is my sole responsibility in reaching the goal of accurate communication?

The Declaration of Independence claims, offers, voluntarily, that it is the duty of human beings to abolish criminal governments.

What is the meaning of the word insurrection?

Does The Declaration of Independence constitute a good idea?

Does The Declaration of Independence serve to hide the crimes of criminals who make slavery legal, and when the slaves do their duty to abolish criminal governments what do you think the criminals do?

How about an example?

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/whiskey/...

"And whereas, James Wilson, an associate justice, on the 4th instant, by writing under his hand, did from evidence which had been laid before him notify to me that "in the counties of Washington and Allegany, in Pennsylvania, laws of the United States are opposed and the execution thereof obstructed by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings or by the powers vested in the marshal of that district";

"And whereas, it is in my judgment necessary under the circumstances of the case to take measures for calling forth the militia in order to suppress the combinations aforesaid, and to cause the laws to be duly executed; and I have accordingly determined so to do, feeling the deepest regret for the occasion, but withal the most solemn conviction that the essential interests of the Union demand it, that the very existence of government and the fundamental principles of social order are materially involved in the issue, and that the patriotism and firmness of all good citizens are seriously called upon, as occasions may require, to aid in the effectual suppression of so fatal a spirit;"

Same guy as this:

http://mises.org/daily/2885

My cryptic words again:

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You said:
"It occurs to me often to realize that as soon as a human being realizes a good, honest, productive, life sustaining, idea there are people who then have more ammo to be used to hide their crimes."

What do you mean? I am curious to what you mean here. Why be so cryptic and open ended? Why not just say what you mean?
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The Hamilton (Monopoly/Criminal/Banker) scam, also known as The Constitutional Convention (post event labeling), was the concept of taking a good thing, CREDIT EARNED, and us that good thing to hide National Debt.

Hamilton and Washington were using the label "Federalist," and that is another case of using a good thing, the thing being an idea of Federalism, and that label is then used to hide crimes of fraud, extortion, and whatever else may be "required" in "national interests".

Like this:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_amend...

"Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

I'd like to answer more to the charges published against me, in my defense, but the damage to my character may have already been done, serving to discredit me, and leaving me with only debt?

Joe