(a bit of a tangent but...)
As far as monkeys go there is an experiment I read about where monkeys were punished for reaching for some fruit then new monkeys were introduced and the old ones removed until there were nothing left but monkeys who themselves were never punished for reaching for the fruit but would still jump on and wrestle down any newcoming monkeys that tried to reach for the fruit.
But my original point was that if we have no free will we are indeed animals worthy of being put in cages. Is this wrong?
I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked
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