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Fair enough.

Perhaps I did make that leap.

But you assumed your down vote (from me, as I always respond when someone asks why) was because I didn't like "Socrates". Which I love the story, and Socrates by Plato is one of my favorite works.

But it is important to understand that Socrates never said to pretend to ignore facts in favor of questions. That is a distinction that may people have lost, and that -fake- quote ignores entirely.

Socrates' life was dedicated to understanding. Not being afraid to say that you don't know something is admirable. Ignoring a fact, because some one asks "what if that fact is not true" is ridiculous, and a perversion of his approach.

In fact, routinely in his "questioning", he would ask, "why do you believe X", and Socrates would respond with an absolute fact and follow up with, "so how does that fit with what you just said".

If Socrates didn't believe in any certain facts, then he could not have done so. His approach was an attempt to understand other people's beliefs, not an attempt to redefine the world through their viewpoint.

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