Comment: Faithkills, I think there is

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Faithkills, I think there is

Faithkills, I think there is a lot that we would certainly agree on.

But there is also a great divide. I believe in liberty, but I would never act on behalf of liberty but against my faith. I and likely most of those I've be debating with have faith 1st, with everything else behind.

It just so happens that my faith strongly motivates me to defend and advocate liberty. God gave men a free will with the intention that we would then be able to love Him or not love Him. If God thought freedom of action and choice was so important, then far be it from me to attempt removing that privileged for another.

So, were I czar of the world, I wouldn't mandate Catholic practices for all; because it wouldn't serve God's desire to have people freely choose Him.

I think in a perfect world porn, heroin, and essentially any vises would be legal but nobody would choose to do them. Ironically, even an omnipotent God cannot create a world in which we all have freedom of choice and at the same there is no risk of individuals choosing to do bad things.

I can't think of a situation where I would need to choose liberty or God; but I know that if the two of us faced that situation, we would see separate choices as correct. (perhaps on abortion, since my faith tells me a soul is instilled at conception thus even a zygote is a person entitled to all rights/protection afforded any other person in our society, while someone who doesn't believe in souls might think at birth or even a the age of reason are when a human deserves the rights of "personhood". Or going the other way, I don't think any animals have souls and thus they essentially have no rights and the only reason we shouldn't abuse them is for the same reason we shouldn't abuse heroine - because it is bad for the soul of the abuser)

There are certainly many Christians who have a very different view and think that by tightly regulating individuals with laws and a nanny state we can instill morality on our society. These are surely the group that worry you, and there are many who think this way.

Thankfully for Catholics there are some great works being published that are helping people connect the dots and see that freedom is perfectly acceptable in a Christian world and perhaps is required of Christians. I've a book by Tom Woods in my bag right here called "The Church and Market" ( http://www.amazon.com/The-Church-Market-Catholic-Economics/d... ), I'm not far it it yet but I assure you that his line of reasoning on Church/market interaction would have most libertarians nodding and giving a thumbs up.

A second book I've got on my Amazon wishlist is "Freedom is Beautiful: Why All Catholics should be Libertarian" ( http://www.amazon.com/Free-Beautiful-Catholics-should-libert... ). I don't know much about the book, but the reviews are very positive and I'll likely give it a try when I've got the time.

But yeah, as I was saying up top, I think there is a different motivation behind some of us. I want what's best for souls and I also think that liberty is tightly intertwined. I'd be a bit surprised if you were of like mind and felt liberty a noble pursuit mainly because God did it first.