Comment: Voluntarism is an impossible

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Voluntarism is an impossible

Voluntarism is an impossible notion so long as there is scarcity and Peter is right that the base problem stems from scarcity.

Realize that fully ubiquitous voluntary free trade is nearly impossible given human psychological propensity to envy, greed or even survive...

an example... Think of a plantation owner and his slaves, it's technically free market but not voluntary for the slaves. This is no different then government because banks can now buy whole countries which allows those banks to set the rules to benefit them.

The fundamental base problem is money and all schools of thought that comes with money based market forces.

So Stephens ideological purist market with voluntary trade is a pipe dream currently. That said, so is Peter's idea that centralized planners will have the people's best interests at heart is also flawed..

The reason I side with Peter is because the "central planner" in his pipe dream doesn't have to necessarily be central or even human... by that, I mean the central planner could(basically must) be an open source computer AI that takes care of the whole notion of market planning(aka the economy as it currently is)

Basically peter Josephs idea of the "central planner" is like Wikipedia. Masses of people all contributing to the programming of the system to benefit humanity best.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.