I have found that there are very few of those. The firewall is up from the very start. There was one here named "Bear" that would have very intelligent open debate and respect for those that were not quite "all in". She was a joy to talk too.
If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.