Comment: Pacifism is destroyed.

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Pacifism is destroyed.

Even if you decide to leave out the word "necessity" while the criminals consume the pacifists, eventually the pacifists are no longer in the genetic make-up of human beings, and then what happens?

The concept of necessity is based upon the concept of sustainability.

A living form that consumes itself cannot sustain itself, therefore the living form that consumes itself, by necessity, does not exist.

If the living form does exist, then by necessity, there must be a function working that sustains the living form.

If the living form includes a gross error among the numbers of the living form, such as errors involving mutations whereby some of the individual members of the species are without conscience, sociopaths, psychopaths, pathological liars, criminals, born without parts of the normal brain that operate as "species self-defensive weapons" (conscience), without self defense of the species, those individuals destroy the species, and without a counter to such things, the species would be dominated by those abnormal, unnatural, mutated, sub-species, individuals, who would then destroy the species.

Sources:

http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Human-Destructiveness-Erich-Fr...

http://www.amazon.com/The-Sane-Society-Erich-Fromm/dp/080501...

http://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Rebellion-robert-lindner/...

http://www.amazon.com/Global-Brain-Evolution-Mass-Century/dp...

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lucifer-Principle-Scientific-Exped...

In other words there is a self-defense mechanism which operates as a species protection device and a word that could be used to describe that internal mechanism is human conscience.

Those who will not step in and work to avoid a crime whereby, for example, a mutated criminal human is burning and eating babies alive, standing next to a pile of baby bones, with a line of babies lined up for the next meal, are as abnormal as the criminal cannibal murderer, in the sense that crime equates to individual human beings destroying individual human beings; by commission or omission.

Here, have another baby?

The necessity factor is understood because of human reason, and because of human conscience. Without human conscience there is no reason to preserve the self, perhaps, and no reason to preserve the species.

"I believe there is another way, a better way, which makes the way you described and the way that it typically happens not a "necessity"."

Those words appear to me as another case of someone dreaming up ideas that they have, and then they place those ideas into my steam of conciseness. Whatever it is you think I wrote, to me, you obviously miss the point.

Here is one example of "a better way":

http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf

That "better way" worked as it was designed to work. That "better way" still works today in places where it works, still, today. The concepts elucidated in that work are easy to understand and to implement, given the opportunity.

Who is in a position to give or take opportunity today?

Moral human beings with operating human conscience are now running amok burning babies alive (or is that a contradiction?), perhaps eating them, perhaps mounting their severed heads as trophies, and if the remaining moral human beings, assuming there are any left, are still financing the sociopaths, financing the psychopaths, financing the criminal cannibal mass murderers, as we speak, if that is going unchecked, in any way, then that process of might making right, that process of violence begetting violence, consumes that life form that was once known as human beings.

The process is well understood by our ancestors.

Example:

http://www.history.org/almanack/life/politics/giveme.cfm

"Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

What does "transform us into beasts" mean?

The bodies are piling up, as the opportunities are being taken away.

Example:

http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/page...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvl6kO1Vo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nn0w_uXStM

Burning people alive.

Child Sex Slavery

Drug Pushers

All made legal, all financed by supposedly moral people, and those crimes are minor compared to the crime of World War.

Examples:

http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_FD...

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

The supposedly moral people are fooled into thinking that payments paid to the criminals will be investments made to ensure protection from criminals.

That is how that works, and to confuse that with true, defensive, government is an obvious, measurable, and accurately measurable, deception designed to weaken the defensive power of the targeted victims.

"That is what I am trying to say, lets not let the offenders force us into this false solution."

I don't. You don't. Who does that leave?

While we don't take the lie and believe it, there are many, even now, who are voluntarily paying into the FUND (International Monetary FUND for now, and denominated in Federal Reserve Notes for now) so as to accomplish what task?

1.
Torture and mass murder other people, not me yet.

2.
Hire the best liars so that profits can be realized for those who profit from torture and mass murder.

3.
Just following orders, without question, because it is too much work to question those orders.

4.
Avoid a prison term, and possibly worse treatment for failing to pay the extortion fee.

The list can be made by each individual person who pays the extortion fee.

"We can change this if we stop accepting theft and force as a necessity and strive for something better."

That already happened. Slaves fled from England and populated the areas that became states in what became known as America.

Here is evidence:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transc...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

In between 1776 and 1788, the new voluntary government worked well enough to drive off the largest criminal army of aggression for profit then on the planet Earth. It worked. It was a form of a voluntary government based upon the consent of the governed. It was a Free Market of competitive Constitutionally Limited Republics voluntarily joined into a mutual defense Union under The Articles of Confederation.

The reason for the demise of the voluntary government was well reported by those who saw it being stolen at the time. The Central Bankers of the day could not allow competition to exist, because competition would destroy their plans to create and maintain a Legal Money Monopoly Power which is the False Front that hides a Legal Extortion Racket.

If you don't get it, then you don't get it, despite your obvious, and accurately measurable capacity to understand more than most people.

"On Shays's Rebellion - thanks for the commentary and links. Interesting stuff."

Yes, please note, the people defending Liberty in the so called Revolutionary War were volunteers. The people who defended Liberty in the so called Shay's Rebellion were volunteers. The people who crushed the Spirit of Liberty included Alexander Hamilton and George Washington, as they assembled an army of Slaves (Conscripts) so as to invade Pennsylvania and then destroy a Money Competitor.

How does a person make money? In those days a farmer made money by selling farm products, competitively. Rotten food does not sell. In those days the Central Banking Criminals were busy taking over each State, as they could "get away with it" and in the case of Massachusetts the VICTIMS of the CRIMES perpetrated by the Central Bankers who took over Massachusetts, despite the limits of the Massachusetts Constitution, did what The Declaration of Independence clearly Declares as the duty of all free people, they fought CRIME made LEGAL.

The Central Banking Crime is easy to know, as Central Bankers issue fraudulent money, whereby they get to spend the money they create out of thin air, and then they demand as payment of Involuntary Taxes the PROFITS that everyone produces on their own. In the case of Massachusetts there was no SINGLE MONEY ENFORCED NATION WIDE, so that the TAXES were demanded in GOLD, not in Federal Reserve Notes, and not in National Currency, and what happens when Fraud Money is made, and Fraud Money is used by Frauds in Government, and Gold is then used as money at the same time? The Gold (by Gresham's Law) leaves the area, because importers will not accept the Fraud Money, so Gold must be used to buy imports, and exporters will accept the Fraud Money if nothing else (no Gold) is offered. So Gresham's Law works like a one way check valve (or a diode) in a hydraulic circuit (or an electric circuit) where Gold left Massachusetts.

So farmers stop making grain/corn/wheat/whatever and start making Whiskey, competitive Whiskey, high quality and low cost Whiskey, in a Free Market of MONEY, because that is how Farmers Make Money when the Central Bankers are busy printing Fraud Money and causing Gold to leave the area.

They stop farming long enough to make enough MONEY (in the form of Whiskey) to then have MONEY to buy supplies for farming.

So what do the Central Bankers do next?

They TAX Whiskey, payable in Gold, so as to CRUSH that money competition, and so as to force people to use the Fraudulent Money.

The defenders of Liberty knew the score, so they continued their Duty as their Duty was spelled out in The Declaration of Independence, as the Farmers (Defense of Liberty Veterans) went to take back the Armory in Massachusetts.

The defenders of Liberty were defeated in Massachusetts but the TEST CASE PRECEDENT of how well a Free Market Government Design works, WORKED.

The defenders of Liberty fled the criminal State of Massachusetts, after being defeated by the criminals running Massachusetts, and those defenders of Liberty fled to Vermont.

If all the other victims in Massachusetts understand what was really happening, and they decide to choose better instead of worse, then there would be a mass exodus from Massachusetts to Vermont, as voters and tax payers vote with their feet, making a voluntary choice, volunteering to FINANCE a government that actually does work effectively in defense of Liberty instead of working to make crime pay better for the criminals.

Joe