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Comment: my shortest, shortest answer/rebuttal to your friend,

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my shortest, shortest answer/rebuttal to your friend,

would be to have him read the following, if he truly is interested in REAL history of this coordinated attack and smear vs the entire notion of libertarianism, tell him that it has a born-on-date: August 30, 2010.

For most on the Left, they had NO CLUE as to what "libertarianism" at large were, until Jane Mayer's August 30, 2010 'exposé' on the Koch Bros.

That article was solely done to smear libertarianism as "heartless and utopian."

But, if you want to tersely 'P0wnz' him, for P0wnage sakes, just tell him that the Koch Bros funded the rise of the Clintons and their DLC (Dem. Leadership Council), and are one of the biggest underwriters for PBS! All true, it, or read this reply and the one below further, to find out more.

To understand more (at least from my perspective, IMHO) why this smear campaign began, please read the links and threads linked in the following reply box below:

It was basically to malign Dr. Ron Paul, the most famous libertarian alive, today, and his son, and those of us linked to the movement, by linking 'us' to the faketarian a-holes who are riding the coattails and merely use our rhetoric, for political expediency.

Well, the whole point of all this is to lie to those who are truly geopolitically clueless but want to pretend that they're politically informed, where most of 'their' views, and 'news' still come from the RINOs, neoCons, MSM and 'alt-MSM' outlets. For those of us who do actually research on our own, none of this propaganda works us. So, this has never been about 'us,' but brainwashing the idiots who still tune into MSDNC and FauxNews deluding that it's actually 'news' when most of it is all BS PR. Frankly as bad as I knew MSDNC was, had no idea statistically, in measurable metric, they're even bigger liars than FauxNews, FOR REAL: Pew Research: Study finds MSNBC is 85% Opinion Commentary, not 'News'! Out-'foxing' FOX!

And, that research was conducted by the mostly leftist leaning Pew Research Center!

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