had it's chance with Ron Paul and the establishment went out of their way to make sure he wouldn't have a chance in hell. they stopped at nothing. however spreading his libertarian message of peace, personal liberty and sound money is what me and my friends are doing. it's long term thinking until there is a tipping point. could it happen sooner? sure, events could force it, just like events could force the opposite. i just don't see RB as significant. i prefer to listen to and read rockwell, johnson, woods, ventura etc etc.