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Root falsehoods

"For Plato and Aristotle, 'the good' was naturally not to be pursued
by the individual but by the polis."

I see a root falsehood in that sentence. I am not claiming that there are people who "believe" such lies, but many people allow their thinking to be driven by such lies, perhaps it is a form of insanity.

The root falsehood is such that the idea of creating a THING to be held accountable for the actions of individual people just so happens to be very convenient for those individuals who perpetrate the worst crimes beyond human imagination upon the largest numbers of people beyond accurate human calculation.

So the root falsehood just so happens to work very good at covering up the crimes of the worst human beings ever to disgrace the human gene pool, so my thinking is such that the connection between the root falsehood and the actual criminals themselves is not a coincidence.

Case in point:

http://www.amazon.com/Prince-Bantam-Classics-Niccolo-Machiav...

In my copy of The Prince are these words written in the introduction:

"Machiavelli's outlook was darkly pessimistic; the one element of St Augustine's thought which he wholeheartedly endorsed was the idea of original sin. As he puts it starkly in the same chapter 18 of The Prince, men are bad. This means that to deal with them as if they were good, honourable or trustworthy is to court disaster. In the Discourses (I,3) the point is repeated: 'all men are bad and are ever ready to display their malignity'. This must be the initial premise of those who play to found a republic. The business of politics is to try and salvage something positive from this unpromising conglomerate, and the aim of the state is to check those anarchic drives which are a constant threat to the common good. This is where The Prince fits into the spectrum of his wider thought: while a republic may be his preferred form of social organization, the crucial business of founding or restoring a state can only be performed by one exceptional individual."

Note: "...the aim of the state..."

A State is a Legal Fiction. Rather than listing all the people, all the individuals, each one, name by name, on a list, rather than that, there is a Legal Fiction used to identify all those people in that "State" in FACT.

So the use of that FACT, the use of that Legal Fiction is merely a convenience, an economic adaptation, a competitive way to convey meaning.

I can say California when I want to point toward all those people in California, and I don't have to list each name, so I use a Legal Fiction.

The root falsehood occurs when I blame a criminal invasion of another area where people live: blame is focused on that Legal Fiction, not on the actual criminals.

I can say, that the aim of California, was to destroy and enslave those people on that list of people who were once alive in Mexico, who are now all dead, or those who survived are now used as slaves by California.

No one in California, no one on the list of names, are held accountable, because California is responsible for murdering and enslaving all those innocent people.

How convenient can it get for those who profit from the aims of the State?

I do not sign onto the concept that the root falsehood just mentioned above is in any way a coincidence.

I recognize the fact that there are very evil people alive today, and very evil people alive throughout human history, whereby root falsehoods like the one just mentioned, are known to be falsehoods by those specific people on a list of people who have actual names, like, for example, Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

The name just rolls off the tongue.

How about good ole' Fr. Heinrich Luitpold Himmler S.J.?

http://one-evil.org/content/people_20c_himmler.html

Names alone are incapable of telling the fully disclosed accurate account of what actually was done by the will power of that specific name of that specific individual.

"Virtue and the good life were polis- rather than individual-oriented."

I see accurate perception in that sentence, a root of factually based meaning. I can explain, even though I do not think, and I do not believe, and I do not trust, that my competitive offer of my viewpoint will be listened to, or agreed upon.

The human species is created in such a form as to statistically recreate new individual examples of human beings whereby the individual is created with a human conscience; therefore the species is hard wired (figuratively) with the means to produce good life.

You can, of course, take or leave my offer of a competitive viewpoint concerning the sentence quoted.

"All this means that Plato's and Aristotle's thought was statist and elitist to the core, a statism which unfortunately permeated 'classical' (Greek and Roman) philosophy as well as heavily influencing Christian and medieval thought."

I see no reason to call criminals anything other than criminals, so your use of the root word State, to point toward criminals, and then call those criminals "statist" is non-competitive in my view. You help the criminals cover up their crimes, in my opinion, in each case where the criminals are pointed at, and the criminals are then called something other than criminals.

You can continue helping the criminals all you want, what business is it of mine?

"Classical 'natural law' philosophy therefore never arrived at the later elaboration, first in the Middle Ages and then in the
seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, of the 'natural rights' of the individual which may not be invaded by man or by government."

I am not inspired to argue with your limited sources of historical information that you use to form your conclusions. I trust that you will not accept any alternative sources of information as being competitive sources of information; therefore there is no point in me offering competitive sources of information.

Getting past your versions of history that may, or most likely are not, based upon accurate history, I find the following words to be inspiring a competitive response from me to you, or to anyone else who may be reading our conversation (thankfully one that is not accelerating into character assassination):

"The arts are frowned on, and the life of the citizens was to be policed to suppress any dangerous thoughts or ideas that might come to the surface."

My response to that sentence is to offer in return a quote from a very valuable source of words.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/...

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We shall be told: what can literature possibly do against the ruthless onslaught of open violence? But let us not forget that violence does not live alone and is not capable of living alone: it is necessarily interwoven with falsehood. Between them lies the most intimate, the deepest of natural bonds. Violence finds its only refuge in falsehood, falsehood its only support in violence. Any man who has once acclaimed violence as his METHOD must inexorably choose falsehood as his PRINCIPLE. At its birth violence acts openly and even with pride. But no sooner does it become strong, firmly established, than it senses the rarefaction of the air around it and it cannot continue to exist without descending into a fog of lies, clothing them in sweet talk. It does not always, not necessarily, openly throttle the throat, more often it demands from its subjects only an oath of allegiance to falsehood, only complicity in falsehood.

And the simple step of a simple courageous man is not to partake in falsehood, not to support false actions! Let THAT enter the world, let it even reign in the world - but not with my help. But writers and artists can achieve more: they can CONQUER FALSEHOOD! In the struggle with falsehood art always did win and it always does win! Openly, irrefutably for everyone! Falsehood can hold out against much in this world, but not against art.
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Here, following, again is the root falsehood of holding a thing accountable for the actions of individual human beings:

"...of the state's positive law over the natural or divine order..."

I don't buy such nonsense; no thanks.

I'm not accusing anyone of "believing" such nonsense, I merely see the nonsense in the sentence, so I point it out, and I reject it.

"By the beginning of the seventeenth century, royal absolutism had emerged victorious all over Europe."

Again, no thanks, there were people, actual people, and those actual people managed to perpetrate very evil crimes by hiding their crimes behind false "good" reasons, or whatever, I'm not buying into the game of blaming the actual crimes done by the actual people on a nebulous entity, or thing, known as "absolutism," however I can entertain the idea that there was, and is, a person, or group of individuals, who invent, and reinvent, and then use, and then reuse, the concept of perpetrating crimes behind a false front known as Brand X (absolutism) or Brand Y (nihilism), so long as it works to accomplish the job (hide the criminals perpetrating the crime) the flavor of the false front, or the color of the false flag, is incidental.

The bodies still pile up even after the false flag is changed from red to blue and then back to red again.

"... state privilege..."

Here again there is the use of a Legal Fiction which is fine, so long as it is understood that there is no such THING, therefore a state cannot gain, or be given, or lose, or have taken away, any such thing as privilege, while, on the contrary, as a point of demonstrable fact, the actual people perpetrating crimes, and calling their crimes "privilege" happens in time and place, sometimes the victims of those crimes perpetrated by those criminals may actually be led to believe the lie too: believing that crimes are "privileges" taken by a thing known as a "state".

I don't believe such nonsense.

Criminals perpetrate crimes and they have a routine going whereby the criminals hide their crimes behind false fronts and false flags.

Which false fronts and which false flags work best; what qualities of the front or the flag are best to suit the purpose of hiding the crimes?

"...alleged necessity for piling up bullion in a country..."

I'm not so fast at discrediting the practice of collecting things into a central location if that is what you are doing with those words.

When criminals collect what they steal into a central location then the discredit is shared by the thieves who perpetrate crimes and by the victims for failing to defend against those crimes; there is no cause (in my view) to discredit the practice of collecting things into a central location.

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In fact, mercantilism was all of these things; it was a comprehensive system of state building,state privilege, and what might be called 'state monopoly capitalism'.
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If it is crime then I call it crime, I might call it "state monopoly capitalism" if I wanted to help the criminals hide their crimes.

I don't.

"But state absolutism means that the state must and maintain allies among powerful groups in the economy, and it also provides a cockpit for lobbying for special privilege among such groups."

It, whatever name you want to parrot, or if you want to put an accurate name on it, is crime, and it is not a new human (criminal) invention, so I think I get the point.

"With SO MANY people that derive their “station in life” from the government in these times it is virtually impossible to get people to listen to these ideas, people dependent on the State will tune out because they do not what to be accused of being part of the problem."

Here is where the "government shut down" routine can be understood accurately instead of falsely. The criminals and their minions realize that their game is up. The minions, or slaves, or cooperators who cooperate in the process of perpetrating crimes upon their targeted victims, the victims who always are the people who produce anything worth stealing, find out (the minions find out), in real terms, that their "hosts" (victims) can no longer afford to be connected to the "parasites" (criminals and minions) and the realization comes in the form of a sudden shock whereby the well runs dry. The Natural Law known as the Law of Diminishing Returns sets in, as the number of criminals being incorporated into the crime group grow too numerous to feed upon the shrinking supply of victims (producers), and here at this time it may be a good idea for the remaining producers to wise up, and learn from that shocking realization that is being realized by those minions in that criminal group.

A producer certainly "feels the pain" but perhaps not in the same way as one of the minions may feel the sudden shock of having their gravy train come to a sudden halt.

The competitive, voluntary, producer continuously looks for competitive earning potential despite the sudden loss of a job, which is ongoing, as the competitive, voluntary, producer may be constantly looking for a better earning job, even while employment is currently producing income, so the shock is not sudden, and the shock is not devastating - there is no shock, it is business as usual within what still exists as "the animated contest of freedom."

For a member of the criminal minions, those not at the top of the criminal structure, the sudden loss of booty handed down from the more powerful criminals to the lesser powerful criminals leaves the minion, each one, leaves each minion, helpless, powerless, devastated, alone, in deed, because of the nature of the criminal organization; which is DEPENDENCY upon it (the criminals higher up), which is in turn a DEPENDENCY upon the independent (voluntary and competitive) producers.

Here, a person can say, is the HOST group, right here, and "it" produces though voluntary, free market (what remains of it in Liberty), competition: meaning that there is a list of names of INDEPENDENT producers working cooperatively and competitively (adaptively not antagonistically) in a free market to produce more today than was here yesterday, so there is an output which can be called surplus wealth, earnings, property, profits, or booty, depending upon word choices chosen to point out what now is where once there was nothing.

Here then is a criminal group, and "it" steals, meaning that there is a list of names of DEPENDENT criminals who DEPEND upon the HOST group, and who DEPEND upon the absolute necessity of the criminal group creating ever greater lies, ever greater threats, and ever greater destructive violence which is absolutely required in ORDER to maintain the connection between the criminal group and the HOST group: whereby the booty flows from the producers to the criminals and their minions.

So the most powerful criminals have figured out how to shock their minions into a frenzy of feeding upon each other and such things are exemplified with the current so called "government shut down" which can be called a "government shut down" if you happen to believe in such nonsense, while I call it what it is instead.

It is not a "government shut down" it is, in point of fact, a method by which the more powerful criminals set their minions one against the other, so as to reduce the numbers of minions being fed by their crime organization once the (natural) Law of Diminishing Returns sets in, in FACT, when the output of booty is not enough to feed the bloated numbers of criminals and minions.

Joe