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It's a pretty interesting book.

This is an extremely distracting video.

I don't recall that Manning ever considered the possibility of a voluntarist civilization, though he does outline many of the unfortunate characteristics of the society we have which is built on the foundation of enslavement. I would not call what we have civilization, but "coercive society" or "technological barbarism" like Rome. It remains to see if civilization can develop.

If civilization does develop, I think it will require the voluntary rejection of certain technologies. Maybe those associated with overabundant grain production are among those technologies which should be rejected. The best model I have right now is along the lines suggested by Wendell Berry:

1. The measure of many things should be the effect on health and community (rather than efficiency and productivity).

2. Physical labor at a moderate level is good for the health and mental well-being of most people.

3. People need to be intimately connected with a particular geographic location and derive their sustenance from it.

Add to these ideas the moral imperatives of voluntarism and the attention to defense initiated by Isaac Davis (things of which Berry seems to have no practical concept), and I think you've got a good start on being able to build civilization in a few generations.