Comment: I do understand your point

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I do understand your point

I agree there are qualitative factors that need to be considered when comparing circumstances. And you don't need to convince *me* of non-tangible costs of industrialization. I guess where I might disagree with you, though, is that, well, to me it sounds kind of "parental" on your part. As deplorable as life in crowded cities might be in some ways, maybe Chinese YA's still consider themselves better off in a more modern environment vs. the conditions of rural poverty and perhaps olde-world customs they fled. But even if they would come to believe they were not better off, maybe they need to see that for themselves. But having said that...

just sticking with quantitative issues, here's a problem I have with all economic models I've seen discussed, including by Ron Paul. I think they're all *worthless* without defining, up front, "the domain." Capitalism operates w/in a system. If I'm a farmer and buy a car from you (my fellow community member), the way it's supposed to work is that, sooner or later, you and/or those you buy products from will buy some of my farm produce. How nice. We both end up with what we want or need! Except now, if I'm a farmer and buy a car from you, you might then buy your garlic from China and your tomatoes from Mexico. It's *still* a mutually beneficial system - for you and farmers in China a& Mexico, just not for me anymore. Ever see this? It makes me sick.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir