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caste, class, skin color--

have always been issues.

It's not just in America, though it might be worse here than some other places--

I was just trying to bring up that one person mentioned that wars and disorder were being foisted on other parts of the world by the American empire during the 50s--

(and after)

and was not downvoted--

another person mentioned that things were not good for blacks (in general) in the 50s*; {{it completely depends upon which black person, which white person--

for *me* as a very white person with black ancestry (that's another story for another time) life in the 50s was idyllic. I did, however, even then know that it wasn't that way for many--}}

*and was downvoted; I was merely pointing out that a lot of the horror that Americans were beginning to spread to the rest of the world in the 50s was actually done to people with brown skins--

that is all--

when I was a young person growing up in the 50s, going to school then, I knew migrant workers; all the ones I knew were not white, though white farm kids helped out with their own families' harvests, and I knew Japanese American children who were still trying to get out of intense poverty from the internment camps--

even though I was very young my heart went out to these people--I had freckles and blue eyes and light-colored hair--

and college-educated parents, but I saw these situations, even then. I was very aware of them--

I have already said that it isn't a black and white issue (no pun intended); it wasn't all good or all bad for anyone--

there were actually strong black neighborhoods and communities and families in the 50s, where it was a point of pride to work very hard and become well-educated and not take government help or 'charity', but many of those same people were VERY careful not to step on white toes, because the 'legal' system could not be counted on to keep things fair--

there was no drug war; there was no 'welfare' as it came to be known later--

I've only been pointing out that it was the best of times (close families for the most part, not too much hunger, for the most part) and the worst of times (fomenting by the young and vigorous CIA throughout much of the world, covertly, harsh legal realities for minorities)--

I saw dazed Japanese American kids who went with their families from place to place to do migrant harvesting--

who hadn't yet come out of the internment camps psychologically; their descendants are probably doctors and lawyers now, but I still saw that, in the 50s.

I saw thin Hispanic kids whose clothes were torn who worked really hard just for a few tortillas, also in the harvests--

I'm not a collectivist. But I am aware that there are people who have more privileges--

I have been part of the privileged group, and I am now seeing a decline in prosperity among my *own* group. All of my blonde nieces and nephews earn considerably less than their parents did--

I've watched prosperity fall in my *own* white family--

and I have compassion for anyone who is suffering, whatever their skin color--

but I am also aware that some people have had to work harder to have the same sense of security as others who have not had to work as hard--

Your last question is very good--

I don't consider myself ignorant, but I don't want to exploit others--which is why, at this point, I don't buy cheap Chinese goods, I support fair trade wherever possible, I wear out *my* (speaking for several people) clothes--

and don't use a lot of expensive electrical gadgets--

I'm a throw-back to the 50s; my grandparents did a lot of things the old-fashioned way; we do that at our house, too--

we hang clothes out to dry; we heat with wood--

we do as many things in a low-tech way as possible--

and we are keenly aware that there are other people in the world who have much less than we do, and we are concerned about them, especially the children, because *we* are all 'brothers and sisters'--

as long as there is any suffering in the world I can't feel smug about my life--

and it didn't used to be that way, but I'm getting older, and that is what has come, with aging, to me.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--