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Comment: This is backwards.

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This is backwards.

I agree the problem is not immigration, but the welfare state. The suggested solution only infringes on more liberties. It is easy to say "restrict eligibility," but how is that to be enforced? How is the welfare state going to know whether a person is eligible or not? This is an invitation to the government to invade privacy.

Everyone has to have their papers in order because the welfare state needs to know who can get what. This is just the same liberty for benefits trade.

The government will be stopping people and invading their homes, and taking their children and all of the other horrors it loves to verify people qualify for government benefits even if they do not want them.

The idea that open borders after the end of the welfare state is like "jam every other day" in Alice through the Looking Glass. It is jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today because today is not any other day.

The people who jealously guard their welfare state handouts don't want outsiders muscling in on the gravy train; They want to keep the borders closed to protect their checks. They have no incentive to ever give it up - particularly as long as they can keep the interlopers out.

The only way this is going to happen is when the welfare state collapses and the checks stop coming. Open borders with lots of aliens sharing in the benefits will speed that collapse.

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