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Tacitus writes over a hundred

Tacitus writes over a hundred years after the supposed time of Jesus, and a half century after the events he is writing about. He confirms the existence of a Christian sect at his time, and tells a story about 'Chrestus' that is similar to what is believed today, but there is absolutely no evidence that this is something he actually knows to be true (and given his date he could not have.) He's simply repeating hearsay at this point, over a century after the fact.

BTW, the one thing in that passage that IS subject to easy verification is easily verified to be false. The historical Pilate was not a Procurator, but a Prefect. Yet another indication that Tacitus, here, is simply repeating hearsay with no real knowledge of what happened over a century earlier.

Lucian is even later, and even more clearly simply repeating hearsay which was current at that late date.

Josephus has been analyzed to death, I could write you a novel but it would save time if you would just consult the scholarship before making up your mind. 18:3 is undeniably a later interpolation. This has been recognised for centuries, that particular passage is worded in a way that only a Christian could have written - if Josephus HAD written it he would have been a Christian himself, yet we know from reliable sources he lived and died an observant Jew. It was added later and based on circumstantial evidence we even have a good idea of when and by whom.

The other passage may have been tampered with as well although in a less heavy-handed fashion, but even if it were assumed to be original and authentic, the identification of the Jesus in this passage with the Jesus of the Christians is purely speculative. Jesus (Yeshua, better translated Josh) was a very common name in Palestine at the time, so this could have very easily been another Jesus. In fact, if the Gospels are to be believed, it would HAVE to be a different Jesus, since the Gospels say he was crucified, not stoned.