Comment: Maybe because their ideas

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Maybe because their ideas

Maybe because their ideas were known and anyone can see what they were into by the symbolism they used. I'm not saying "the church" was the good side, either. I also don't think the founders were all that good. They used tons of occult symbolism.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.