Comment: tired of all this speculation

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tired of all this speculation

I agree with shrimpton's analysis, read it in full.

look up on wiki how many ssk class subs there are in the world!!

would our governments really let us know if the chicoms shot thier own citizens out of the sky and subsequently if we sank a sub of theirs, I highly doubt it considering how short of a leash the chinese keep us on.

and dont say stuff would floatso we would see it, because that shootdown site would be cleaned up the minute it happened.

nuff said

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL