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Excellent advice

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

That's horrible

But then again so was Dodd-Frank.

Chicken or the egg? NEITHER, it's the FED and games being played with FIAT money.

Haha, we beat them with

Haha, we beat them with mostly small arms fire and the other people over there cant do anything to slow them down? hahaha
Ok, now that the laugh is out of the way.(plus obviously its more complex than what I stated above)
Can we just remove our troops please.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

I am sorry to hear about your brother-in-law

I will pray for your family.

Edward Moran

quoting form the article:

"US and Cuba to Restore Diplomatic Relations in Historic Overhaul"
Published on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 by Common Dreams:

"...White House press secretary Josh Earnest released a statement Wednesday
admitting its decades-long failure in Cuban relations. "It is clear that decades of U.S. isolation of Cuba have failed to accomplish our enduring objective of promoting the emergence of a democratic, prosperous, and stable Cuba," the statement said. "We cannot keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. It does not serve America’s interests, or the Cuban people, to try to push Cuba toward collapse."..."

Oh but it serves our interest to push Ukraine toward collapse. I call that forked tongue policy. We Have plenty to take care of here at home, quit messing around with the rest of the world. Defense yes and always; intervention, no.


Mountaincat :)
Michael's right.. gratitude is an AWESOME weapon
against hate or fear; jealousy or anger.
Thanks for this post Michael and the reminder to us.
Merry Christmas friend.

Thanks Mountaincat

Your comment cheered me up.

And Thanks Michael for this wonderful post.

Love vibes flowing to you all to the entire DP family.

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sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Been thinking of...

...and praying for your brother-in-law and family as this post has come to mind. I still feel pangs of missing those I love whose passings were expected; can only imagine the grief from a sudden loss like this. May Love keep you all until grief melts into renewed joy, in a better time and place.

hard to find words...

I will pray... I will pray she has a full recovery.

LL on Twitter:
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Thanks Michael - That means a lot. I know of the general area.. Pike Place that you mentioned but I didn't know about the fortune teller.

Actually those kind of things scare me and I avoid them (fortune-tellers) because I fear a self-fulfilling prophecy could result.

For the most part it is a blessing that we can't know the future.

Imagine if we knew the exact times of our own deaths. Not good.

Anyway, if you're ever in Seattle, please send me a message and dinner's on me!

It would be great to hang out for a while and discuss your experiences with the DailyPaul (which must be enough to write a book about by now).

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

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Thank you Michael

I have recently become a Christian, about the same time as Smudgepot and it would not have happened without the Daily Paul.
I too will include the Daily Paul community in my prayers.
I Love you all.

That is...

...indeed horrific. Praying for Chloe, Ed & family.

Prayers alread said after reading this terrible news.

More prayers are coming and will continue. May God have mercy on Chloe and the Rombach Family.

Request for Front Page.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I'll probably just have to

write in RON PAUL once again.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

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Key Ferguson Witness Sandra McElroy Faked Entire Testimony

Sandra McElroy, a key Ferguson witness whose testimony to the grand jury that eventually exonerated Officer Darren Wilson in the killing of unarmed teen Michael Brown, has been among the most often cited in the media, simply made up her whole story, a new investigative report finds.

The new report calls into question the integrity of the grand jury process in the Ferguson case, because court documents show that prosecutors and federal investigators knew McElroy’s tale of witnessing the confrontation between Brown and Wilson was fiction.

Thanks c2c

I know watchya mean about headaches too. Back in the early 60's I started getting migraines at the age of nine about 3 X a week and they went on until I was fifteen. Every time made me sick to my stomach. My parents kept taking me to the doctor and all's they'd say was aspirin. Then Tylenol came out and I found if doubled the dose it took care of them. Don't need that stuff no more. Thank God!

Anywayz, I'm passing this thread on to her so she can get it directly 'from the horses mouth'.

Thanks again!

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? >

This post is a PERFECT example

of why we all keep coming to DP.
We aren't just any old "political" site. We really are a family.
No matter how heated it might get at times, we do come here with our joys and sorrows to share them with our internet family.

Thinking and praying for all of the DPers this Christmas. We can change OUR worlds by living out peace and joy and love every day.

Feliz Navidad y Dios te bendiga - a TODOS.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

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I'm sorry that I took so long to comment, but you and your family have been in my prayers. God Bless you my friend.

I'll be sure to pray for

Ed and his daugher at Mass tomorrow.
Thanks for the heads up Michael.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!


there are cops who are human, at least in the great State of Alabama. My goal for the new year is to find more officers like this officer and post their stories.

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God Bless Chloe

for a quick recovery and give comfort to Ed and his entire family.

I went through the same thing

I'm deeply sympathetic because I went through the same thing years ago.
At one stretch, I had a migraine that lasted for 3 entire months with no let up. I saw every doctor you can imagine, even a neurologist.

The thing that finally helped me was physical therapy focused on the head and neck region. A procedure referred to as "occipital release" was the most beneficial. I went twice a week initially and it helped fairly quickly. Then I continued therapy once a week for maintenance, until the headaches were under control.

Some years later the headaches started again. I gave up wheat entirely and the headaches disappeared virtually overnight.

How old is your friend? Many women start having bad headaches when they go into menopause. (hormonal changes trigger the headaches)

I certainly wish her the best because these severe headaches can really destroy a person's quality of life. Keep us posted.

I believe people are in store for

a rude awakening come April 15, 2015, at least the people who are still working.

Perish the thought of

a flat tax or a fair tax. A flat tax over the years would put us right back in the same position we are in now. A Fair tax would be a regressive tax, it is more daunting for someone making $15,000 a year than someone making $150,000 a year. Herman Cain's 9-9-9 was a shining example of paying a 9% business transaction tax, a 9% personal income tax and a 9% federal sales tax. Add to the that, the state sales tax where I live and it is another 9%. What a lousy idea.

To the government, the beauty of the IRS is that this agency can pick us apart one by one. We should return to the constitution and have the states be apportioned by population to pay for federal government spending. It's far more effective for a state(s) to control taxation by the federal government than individual taxpayers.

If we really want a smaller federal government, let the politicians in states take the heat for raising taxes.

I favor

The one in which we are considered to immature and self centered. So no other extraterrestrial race wants to play with us until we grow up.
That and their too nice to play whack a mole... But regress whenever it looks like we might go a wandering... Ops that star engine blew up without casualties and the engineers all lost their abilities to engineer....see in five thousand...

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Terrible News

My wife and I will pray for Ed's daughter and the family.

Edward Moran

Not meaning... debate whether an incarnation of God is possible; but rather, assuming that it is possible, am asking whether there would be a contradiction between the function of a prophet (declaring God's truth) and being God.

Actually, forget the incarnation for a moment -- God, or Allah, if He ever declares anything about Himself to people, is directly taking on the prophetic role.


Regarding Christ being acknowledged as God, consider how he did not rebuke Thomas after his doubts were eased and he exclaimed '"My Lord and my God.' Jesus saith unto him, 'Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.'" (John 20:28)

Smoke some weed

And then drink a lot of water to hydrate.

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy

Took the time to see this Movie in Spokane Washington.

I invited a close female friend of mine to go see the movie. The round trip travel was well over two hundred miles to make this happen. (Was a ONE night only showing).

To my surprise, there were less than twenty people in the theater viewing the movie with us. Very disappointing, ..this why this country stays the same, ..nobody cares! (Take Your Bookmarks Wherever You Go!)

Great Post!

Prayers for you Michael, your family and everybody on the Daily Paul. :) Although a fictional character, Yoda does have a lot of good things to say.

1. No. The funds rate is set

1. No. The funds rate is set arbitrarily by the Fed. This is the interest rate that they pay on excess deposits parked at the Fed. They set that rate. You may be confusing that with the US treasury rate, which is "market rate", heavily influenced by QE and money printing.

2. A suspiciously depressed treasury rate implies ongoing intervention by someone, be it the Fed or the ECB, or the BOJ.

3. Real buyers (probably not), proxy buyers, or other central banks.

4. They print it! Yeehaw!

5. The continued low treasury rates imply that QE of some kind never ended. The continued low Fed funds rate says that cheap credit for the cronies is here to stay for the time being. Meanwhile, credit card rates and car loans sit at 30% and 8%.

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

Open Wide

and take your GMO'S.

To my Liberal Trolls:
"Really Don't mind if you sit this one out. Your words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
Ian Anderson 1972


I say all praises for this officer making a good judgment call.

But they have blown this incident up in the mainstream media, and you can call it what you will, but it's being used as a propaganda piece in order to prop up the whole "COPS ARE GOOD PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE ONLY THERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY"..... Trying to put a good spin on the actions of Law Enforcement Officers in general.

Now I don't believe that this particular incident was a setup by no means, but I can truly see how it could've be done. I mean think about it, just how hard would it be to setup this feel good piece like this anyway? It's not like it would hard to find someone willing to take some free groceries ya know.

As the shift Sargent, you'd tell all your patrol officers, "if we get any elderly black women for shoplifting this week, I want to personally know about it"...... And in my town, that would probably be at least 5 times a day I'm sure.

We've got this one elderly black women here in town who's probably in her late 60's, and everyone knows her as "The Meat Lady", cause she sales prime cuts of meat for 1/2 the store sticker price on the package, and yes she'll take pre-orders also, and I'd be willing to bet a dollar to a donut she's got grandkids at home with no groceries in the cabinets too.... Cause she spends everything,.... the food stamps,... and anything else she can get her hands on smoking crack!......ANS SHE'S GOT A CRACK-HEAD HAIR-DO THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE LADY'S HAIR IN THIS STORY!

Anywho, I guess there are a couple of good cops left out there huh?

Then that pig went

Back to his paid job of violating people for victimless crimes. Imposing fines on people that don't deserve it. The tickets he gives out to others may be the very cause of someone's kids not eating. You never know how close to the edge a person is, and getting a ticket for several hundred bucks could certainly be enough to send a family on the edge into collapse, perhaps even landing a father or mother in jail. Good cop stories are bogus, because they always go right back to their job of violating others for victimless "crimes". I'm supposed to love cops after this story? Please.

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy

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Now goons have even more

Now goons have even more tools for gooning...

Beware the cult of "government"...

Thanks Ed.....

Speaking of trauma, I didn't even think of asking that one (da). But again, yes she did bump her head a couple of days ago and has a split from it in the middle of her forehead. Again that was after the fact, but I'm sure it didn't help things either.....

Thanks Ed!

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? >

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time to arm cows?

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I despise democracy now and

I despise democracy now and what they stand for but they might have actually stumbled on some truth...

Beware the cult of "government"...

Sherman was not proud of

Sherman was not proud of anything he ever did, that's what made him Sherman, but he did everything unapologetically, if that's what you mean.



Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

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I don't know Ed.

According to the news stories in the last few years, it seems like it's probably today's standard police procedure for jaywalkers.

"Don't! Cross! Roads! Like! That! Ev! Er! A! Gain! Cri! Min! Al! Scum!"

Ok… we go again.

Look I know what you are saying, that people at the lower end of the scale have to use a higher percentage of their productivity in order to survive while people at the upper end are using a lower percentage. You attach an arbitrary unit of productivity that is your choice, even though most people do not have the power to produce it and it’s not one of the three form of capital. Then you try and monetize it and leap to a unit of measurement of money but not a unit that can be issue by fiat.
First you say this as if there is something new about this:
1) Your price (judgment) is everything needed in determining the true price. Your price is a judgment that is in fact your price.
2) When you set the price, that is the price, and that is the foundation of free markets.

1) All market price are subjective based upon the personal choice of the consumer.
2) Wrong……when you set the price and the shelves clear, that is the foundation of the free market, but you somehow avoid the producer……the producer has to make a profit to continue to bring the product to the market… in reality you are only looking at it from a consumer perspective…guess what econ 101… and demand.
Well this is flawed…..because you are only looking at the market price, avoiding the price of production, now whether the producer makes a profit or not will determine whether the products continue to be produced, the free market is when the producer can produce, the retailor can clear the market and the consumer is will to give up a hour of his electricity for the product.

Lets examine this
You first claim that labor is better than electricity in determining value according to survivability. Then you claim that labor as a theory of value is false. I did not touch that argument with a ten foot pole.
Well I will…and that because there is a deeper concept that you leave out and it the most important point to capitalism and the free market….called…..wait for it…The
OPPORTUNITY COST OF CAPITAL. This concept was a point in the work of Richard Cantillon and he was the first to examine the difference between the market price and the labor theory of pricing.
Here’s the point. The unit of productive measurement that you have developed is flawed because of several factors.
If let’s look at the premise of survival……Why you choose this word is a mystery, because the real world concept is wealth…..or the generation of wealth. Now wealth or wealth generation is not who’s got the most, wealth is define in this insistence as an increase in whatever activity one chooses when not employed in production of obtain wealth. Not the Webster’s definition…..but a working definition. Those at the lower end of the economic scale might spend more hours a day to get to their activity of choice then those at the upper end of the economic scale, but that is a discussion that I do not care to engage in.
So how does one obtain wealth? By combining one or more of the three forms of capital. Human capital, natural resources or capital formation (as described in my last post).
So in order to obtain your unit of measurement for survival one would have to already have used one of the three form of wealth generation to create it. So you are stating above the root of wealth generation…….so that’s a flaw in your concept.
Another flaw would be “barrier to entry”, while there would be barriers to entry whether you are mining gold or generating electricity is not the point…..the barriers to entry for producing electricity would be enormous compared to gold mining. Gold mining could be as low as leasing the land and a shovel.
Now we get to you productive power. ……
Instead I went for a fixed measure of power known as electricity as a fixed measure of productive power, because my intention was to focus attention upon a fixed measure of productive power INSTEAD of focusing any attention onto money in any form at that moment when my intention was to fix attention onto Productive Power BEFORE fixing any attention onto any competitive forms of money whatsoever. I did not confuse the two.

No…but you confused the shit out of the reader

Instead I went for a fixed measure of power known as electricity

as a fixed measure of productive power,

because my intention was to focus

attention upon a fixed measure of productive power

INSTEAD of focusing any attention onto money in any form at that

moment when my intention was to

fix attention onto Productive Power


fixing any attention onto any

competitive forms of money whatsoever.

So let me restate that.

Before introducing any form of money, I felt it was important to establish a unit of measurement for productive power.

Let’s examine the “TWO”
1. Productive Power as a fixed amount that is accurately measurable by anyone anytime whereby the same measure of Productive Power is the same each time it is measured no matter who does the measuring anywhere anytime.
This is the definition of a unit of “standard” measurement. IE……a foot is 12 inches, a pound is 16 oz. an ounce is an ounce. And gold refine to 24ct is 99.9% pure gold. So for gold… ounce of 24ct is an ounce of 24ct no matter what shape or face is on it…..a standard unit.
Look the reason I choose gold as opposed to your electricity as a unit of measurement is for convenience of the exchange, portability, storage, you can’t store electricity except in a battery and then you are talking about convertibility from ac to dc back to ac…..well unless you use just dc., but electricity would still not be a producer at the base level, where gold is at the base level, it’s exist before man had a hand in making it… only had to mine it….it’s one of the form of capital, along with labor and if you use a shovel….capital formation.
Also… wasn’t automatically choosing as money… evolved as money, as a commodity money. It became a store of value because people trusted it, would that be the same for electricity.
I understand your point of wanting to established a unit of standard productive power to establish a unit of purchasing power, before introducing a monetary unit, I get that you want to establish a unit that can be trusted before the money interest get involved…..and gold does that. You have to remember that mining an oz. of gold is really no different the generating a kilowatt hour of electricity, it takes effort. It takes productive power. But if a shoe maker can be handed a coin that represents productive power of the miner to obtain it, and the shoe maker exchanges so many shoes that represents the same amount of productive power, then you can make a market. But it’s a market that if full of subjective value to each…..only through many, many, many exchanges of gold for shoes would a so called price be established…….this thing we know as a free market evolved over time, just like the trust of gold as a store of value.
2. Purchasing Power or Money which is a judgment made by an individual in every single case and that judgment is exclusive to each individual each individual time.
Purchasing Power OF Money subjective to individual in every single case and that judgment is exclusive to each individual each individual time.
Really with gold it remains subjective in the end because even though a miner might have a oz. of gold his marginal utility of shoes might have been satisfied, so he moves on to britches, or if he is smart……into something that makes he’s mining operation more productive…..and this leads to your “abundance theory statement”. Now he’s able to produce more gold for the same effort, making him more productive, increasing his wealth, or survival because life is easier…..hey theory proven……good job.
But here again….in your ten points, you arbitrarily choose the sun to be the unit of measurement with arbitrarily length of time and, once it is consumed by an arbitrarily population number that at best would be a wild ass guess,… then can a kilowatt hour be defined:
as #5
1 kilowatt/hour is 1 very accurate measure of survivability power as a division of total power available to people currently, before the power runs out, and there are no people to argue over the labor theory of value
And then leap to #6

Separate from survivability power is the concept of money
And you still what to go around your ass to get to your elbow, which bring me to say adue!

I don’t want to go around and around with riddles with you…’s really no fun. I now know what you are say, which is what I always thought you were saying. I don’t care for it….but to each his own, say it the way you like…..I will just ignore it. I do look forward to you post on history.
So good luck Joe.

true true. though... welps...

they are both said to be the "Architect(s)"... of toilet bowls... or something or rather xD

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

My two cents:

I know everyone's situation is different, but when I get a headache, I drink pickle juice.
I always have a huge jar of dill pickles in the fridge and well, that's what I do and it works.
But I have a friend that suffers from migraines and she has managed them through diet.

I love my country
I am appalled by my government

Wasted time and effort. Any

Wasted time and effort. Any state sponsored gmo labeling scheme would just turn into a shakedown, both of companies and consumers. All you have to do is shop non-gmo certified products (making sure the certification is reputable always). Most European countries have banned them entirely, meaning.foods from those countries are generally free from them (but will be labeled gmo-free, and again you should verify that the certification means anything through research).

Eastern bloc goods are generally price competitive with their American counterparts but lack the gmo ingredients. I know not everyone has a Russian neighborhood near where they live, but do some research. You may be surprised at what you never noticed is in your own backyard.

quite welcome,

Mayor Ny! .o)

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Could be anything

The differential diagnosis for headaches is huge. But I agree that at the top of the list is stress. Could also be from a concussion. I've been dealing with that for the last couple of months. I didn't even make the connection between my headaches and my head trauma until weeks later. Has she had any head trauma in the last year, such as car accident, bumping her head, etc.?

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus


Hard for me to tell in all honesty.

Private roads? Are you mad?

If you think tolls on the George Washington Bridge are high now, wait until Monsanto buys every bridge and tunnel in/out of NYC and holds the city hostage. I thought roads were one function of government people agreed on...

If you want private roads, just buy a couple square miles of land, like DisneyLand. Logging companies build their own roads to run their operations. Private roads do exist, but I think a public highway system is good for the country.

"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."