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Look at this smear on C4L

http://forums.hannity.com...

first they ignore you
then they ridicule you
then they fight you

Must mean we are winning if they lie this much.. I expect more to come..

This will fail and we will win...

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Here, how about this one for

Here, how about this one for old time sake, http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Ha that was awesome :) 5 stars

/Mike

Front Fell Off
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Relax kids

He is just sizing up his opposition. Happens every day in today's
news market.

With Love,

Scott

oh Hannity

Goes after Obama regarding the Bailouts daily.
Pimps Chevy's, Daily.

Whines about rights being taken away, daily.
Pretends Ron Paul does not exist, daily

I would say that If Oxymorons could walk, they would wear Hannity's shoes.

good to see that we have

good to see that we have taken over the sean hannity forums!

Now that's not a bad idea to continue elsehwere =)

how about operation blogfest =)

1. Hit Hannity's daily
2. Hit Limbaugh's
3. HIt Beck's

With lots of anti-propaganda

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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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C4L suffers much like the original campaign with organization

and I've heard some crazy things there too, not to mention how to grow a pot garden in your 10x10 room, and more that I wont mention.

People, do what you want in the privacy of your homes but this stuff does not represent our cause well to the neocons who might be on the fence of joining our movement.

Focus on liberty, freedom and economic education. The rest of the anti-israel government talk (which does have some substance) will only serve as a distraction.

I've had people tell me, you support Ron Paul so you must be part of the anti-israel crowd. I ask them do you like your government? I tell them that the israeli government is as corrupt as our government. We have no problem with the israeli people or their religion, we have the same gripe with them trying to control our government officials and corruption. This makes sense to most people.

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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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Neocons where I live $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ talks.

They don't care what your business is. Just PAY.. PAY in, PAY up, PAY out, PAY dues, PAY tribute, PAY attention, PAY respect, PAY and then be unindated with war mongering pseudo patriotic cover up for the most corrupt BS next to the Democrats who control them... Arnold Kennedy nee Schwartzenegger and CA's 156 electoral votes, global economy, power of hollywood... Neocons here say Ron Paul prooves one thing:

There’s a sucker born every minute. P.T. Barnum

Lol tnx...great post made me smile...

/Mike

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Are you sure they were talking about pot

or perhaps, "a pot."

Look at this smear on C4L on Hannity forums

You know, I'd love to see what Hannity has to say but for some reason the administrator over at Hannty forums says - Sorry lookyhere - we have banned your IP address. Oh well, I guess its better I don't see what Hannity has to say. Must have been something I said in a previous email I sent to him for them to take it so serious that they would ban my IP address to even get to see what was said. So, just exactly what did he say? Maybe I'm one of the nut jobs he is using to make the liberty movement look bad. Was it that bad for me to tell Hannity what a neo-con he is? I don't think so.

No problem

I read the message and all the comments. For all we know, the guy who went to the event has a legit gripe. We don't know what happened there. The Hannity crowd seems like a fair minded group. (I don't think much of Hannity himself, but I don't imagine he condescends to post there.) The CFL people who are responding are conducting themselves very well.

All's well. Leave it be.

I've

been saying all along the Anti-Semitic crap belongs no where in the movement. It has nothing to do with liberty and makes people sound like KKK. But people have lost their minds over Israel and the Jews. It's sickening really.

I support the truth movement because of course more evidence exists against the gov's version but there is no legitimacy to the Jew hate bull. Jews make up 1/10 of 1 percent of the world population while Christians and Muslims make up 60%. If these folks were actually controlling things shame on the huge majority for letting them. It isn't logical to think so ridiculously. they are a tiny blip on the radar while those saying it outnumber them by what 600%. It's a fantasy and the Jews are the scape goat, again. It's getting really old and stupid.

Zionist imperialism angers some people

the same way American imperialism does.

So there is this resentment of imperialist AGENDAS.

I don't hate Americans because of what the US government does.
I don't hate Jews because of what Israel does.

We should be allowed to talk about things.

most people

who are wrapped up in it have no idea how they sound. they think they are being neutral but it's overwhelmingly hate and no other way to describe it.

That's like a racist trying to act like he isn't racist, can't be done, he gives himself away on almost everything he says. The reason, his core belief is that another race is inferior to him. He doesn't understand this is flawed thinking so he gives himself away every time.

That's a shame.

I've never met a real, live anti-semite in person, that I know of. I've heard some subtly negative vibes here and there but nothing really venomous. The Christians get most of the venom.

don't take the bait set them

don't take the bait
set them straight..

Oh, I sure wish he had recorded it also

But I have the feeling he would have done it without it being known!! I know exactly who, what, when, where and why he is talking about and I am not even the least bit involved nor was I present and I feel strongly that he is very into presenting only one side of what he speaks. I would love to see that whole group in a room together with this group of exchanges in their hands. I smell a neocon trying to play coy but hasn't figured out how to do so yet.

Sent the last bit of change I had, I pray it multiplies for

Rand. I gave some to Peter Schiff on his money bomb too.

Digg deep YEH!

Sean Hannity....

makes Glenn Beck look like a saint and Mitt Romney a genius. Happy Birthday Ron just donated to Rand keep up the great work.

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

What's the saying...any

What's the saying...any publicity is good publicity? It's gratifying to see that some C4L supporters were on there defending the organization. In contrast, the criticisms consisted mostly of personal attacks and false perceptions...thin indeed, and anyone with intelligence can easily see through them.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Probably made up...but...

Let this be a warning...these are the things they're going to use to paint us with the nutjob brush. They want to continue to portray us as a bunch of paranoid computer geeks who sit and talk of conspiracy theories all day long.

Believe in what you must...but please make sure you focus on the message. We need as much public support as we can, and we can't afford to alienate people with distractive messages.

The message is freedom and peace. Keep on topic, people. Do not give them ammunition to marginalize us.

I understand what you mean, but....

why should I promote the lies about 911, for ANY reason?

Now, even in this movement, I'm called upon to LIE? Just to be included?

That sucks.

Not lie

You don't have to lie...just don't focus on issues that will scare the general population away from supporting us.

Pursue your truth as you will...but don't let your pursuits cost this movement a chance to make a difference.

Put it this way...if we can't get some honest people elected...what is the chance that you will ever get a real and thourough investigation of 9/11?

Stick to the message...people will more readily join a movement based on freedom and peace. I know it's hard...but in politics sometimes you have to know when and where the appropriate time to discuss certain things.

Freedom first, or you'll never have your truth.

Yeah, I don't wear a "911 was an Inside Job" shirt to RP events

So you don't have to worry about me.

Thank you for clarifying that you don't want people to lie.

You really have a shirt like that

Don't you?

Hannity's an idiot -

& so are people that follow him & watch his show - much less believe the bilge he spews. He cannot stand Ron Paul supporters.

It would be interesting to know what city/state C4L meetup group this was.

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

He's still

Mad because he got peppered with snowballs in NH. Somebody ought to post that video for old time sakes.

I read more of this than just the first post

It is a common fear listed on here that the conspiracy theorist and anti-Semitics make this movement look bad.

This is the meet up group they supposedly attended.
http://ronpaul.meetup.com...
From post #13 on page 2
Find that hard to believe, but it doesn't surprise me too much.

Yeah, I doubt I could get along with any of his fans

Not that I've met any, that I know of.

Hannity's no idiot, he's good at what he does - propaganda.


That's how he makes a living.

Of course it may not work very well with the government out of the way.


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Anyone that would even watch

Anyone that would even watch Hannity is a mindless moron so who gives a crap what he or his followers say. Christ, he works for Rupert Murdock need anyone say more?

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Turn off the TV propaganda.
Find out what's really going on!
www.Tru-News.com
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Except for those...

Who haven't discovered what liberty really is yet. I used to like Hannity back when I thought that killing Arab "terrorists" was a good thing.

Me too diz..

And I am half "arab"..

I was totally into the whole revenge thing.
then along came Paul...Of course he was already there..But I wasn't ready to hear it at first.
It was refreshing to see things from a whole new perspective.
Knowing there is no such thing as left versus right.
It's Liberty versus mental bondage..

Regardless of where it is

Regardless of where it is posted, this is not particularly flattering. And, exaggerated or not, I have noted strong undertows of conspiracy for conspiracy's sake amongst RP & C4L supporters as well, which WILL drive away the vast majority who aren't so conspiracy minded. Regardless of who is right, Hannity reaches a lot more voters than we do, so to gain influence we need his fans more than they need us.

And it's not even got anything to do with me disliking truthers et al. For all I know, they're right, and officials are lying. Wouldn't be the first time. And maybe Israel does run America. But still, who cares? Sitting around and assigning blame is rather useless. The important point, the one uniting us all, and many, many more outside our movement, is realization that government is too big. Which means it needs to get smaller; as in doing less, spending less, taxing less, borrowing less, employing fewer people, removing pages of laws, selling off buildings and land, fighting fewer wars, handing out less foreign aid, paying less welfare, paying less for healthcare, paying less for education etc., etc. Just shrink, period, and get closer to the size it had when Jefferson was president.

I mean, who cares if the Rothschilds are running the government? The important part is that I am paying my money to whoever the heck runs it, and it ain't me! Exactly whether the people getting my taxes are Rothschilds or Obamas, or even Pauls, does not really enter into the calculation with respect to size of government. The point is government is too big, and we should work to make it smaller. And if we just doggedly stick to that message, and never get derailed, we will get a lot of supporters, and hence gain influence, since that is not a particularly controversial position anymore, even amongst many Hannityites.

On the other hand, we will continue to be marginalized if we split whatever votes and resources we do have on pissing contests between those who blame the Rotschilds and those who blame the CFR and the Bilderbergers for whatever ails the world and our country.

Remember, if government was properly limited, it would be so powerless as to make who "controls" it utterly irrelevant. So, let's just work on properly limiting it, regardless of who did this and who did that to whom at one point or another.

EXCELLENT post, stuki

thank you!

Well said, stuki

It does seem like blame is too often shifted to this or that party, this or that family, this or that racial/ethnic group, this or that country, when the blame should rest solely on those of us who have allowed our government to do as it pleases without question or recourse. The blame rests on us. Thank you for the very poignant comment.

Chris

If you wish to place blame ...

If you wish to cast a stone ...

First look within.

What have you done to make things the way they are?

What can I do to change things?

What can I do to correct my own mistakes?

God Bless you all.

Go Rand Go.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Heh

I wanted to hate your post... But it's brilliant.

Bump

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If Hannity reported his experience accurately,

he stumbled into a fledgling group not really understanding the liberty movement yet.
It is sad when collectivists mistakenly try to masquerade under the freedom banner. I agree with comments below, not only do we near to be very clear about the ideas of individual liberty, but keep the love in our message.

Freedom is for all, even bigots and truthers, birthers etc

C4L is the only shred of freedom - you will find diversity of opinion here. Who said any of us had the corner on truth?

The whole reason to be free is to believe what you want and to allow others to do the same as long as it does not infringe the rights (inalienable ones) of others.

Freedom is for all, but if the dominate CFL element were bigots

and haters, I'd just seek personal freedom in in the cracks of the system and not support the organization with my time and money. Or bail on America and seek a more enlightened culture.

The only way the movement can attract large numbers if we stand on the high moral of respect for all individuals and freedom with trust and love as a big quotient. Otherwise it's just fighting among the ugly special interests and factions.

well....

It's not my fault the Zionists have gotten so much power...not my fault 911 was an inside job. They are shooting the messengers.

The truth hurts ...

whether this is a complete fabrication or not ...

We can learn from that post.

There is a lot of bigotry and hatred in this movement.

We could all take a few lessons from legalizeliberty and start putting more love in our r3volution.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Rhino -- I had the same thought

There have been 100's of anti-Israel rants on here.

I think Israel is a teet-mouse and not a dragon -- they're suckling at the power teet, yah know.

We can cut them off and watch them die. We should have never put them in power -- Because they cannot defend that land without our money or weaponology. It's almost cruel what we've done to them -- they are permanently dependent.

Regarless -- Michael Nystrom did a great job cleaning up the 911 posts, but 6 months ago that "rant" by the "Right Wing Extremist" regarding C4L could have been regarding Daily Paul.

Octobox

I have watched you grow over the past year and a half ...

I now consider myself a student and you a teacher.

I sometimes ask myself, WWOD or WWOS.

I wish you nothing but success on your journey.

God Bless.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I appreciate the sentiment

In high regards

Octobox

I'll bet the post is distorted to suit the audience.


After all, that was the point of posting it.

"My brother and I felt like we were in 1938 Nazi Germany..."


Ron Paul's Convention Speech