Dealing With Friends and Family Who Don’t Get It
Submitted by xntryk1 on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:58
Published: 19 August 2009
Dealing With Friends and Family Who Don’t Get It
By Paul Rosenberg
Since there are plenty of people here at Fr33Agents who can discourse at length on the various Archies and Isms, I’ve decided to address other aspects of liberty activism. Today I want to discuss dealing with family and friends who don’t understand and who become frightened, angry, or worse.
I suspect that many of you have encountered this. It can be painful, difficult and even confusing. It can be especially difficult if the people in question are older than you, and the image in your mind is that they should be more developed and informed than you. (And, in fact, they may actually be more experienced and better-informed in some important ways!)
The difficult thing about liberty ideas is that this is not only a black area in most people’s development, but it is also an area where they’ve been brainwashed by professionals. (Like their parents before them.)
Dealing with freaked-out family and friends is difficult. There may not be any great way to handle it. You may have to stop seeing them for a while, or at least avoid any conversation related to liberty. Sometimes, simple disengagement gives them some time to work through their issues. You can re-engage later.
You may also have friends and relatives that want to mock and ridicule you. I had a few relatives who would wait for a family gathering (a holiday, usually), then take a few others that hated me, wait till the whole group was together, and pull out their worst insults and red herring attacks — loudly. So, I understand how difficult and infuriating this can be. In the extreme, you may have to tell someone that they are vile, then walk away forever.
Other choices, however, are preferable.
In my experience, there are specific reasons for family and friends to freak out:
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Just remind them..
The people in IRAN have souls too, and Jesus tells us to pray for them..
We don't want war (because it causes death, misery), however though this is true, war is sometimes necessary in self-defence!
Let them think about these people in IRAN in relation to what Jesus would want for them (to come to a knowledge that He is the Savior, and for their sins to be cleansed by God, if we go to war needlessly and they die...(it would not be the best)!
Jeremy
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"Our planet is the mental institution for the universe."
-- Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
"Maybe this world is another planet's hell."
-- Aldous Huxley
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very nice post. i think
very nice post.
i think we've all been thru the situations listed.
Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Per
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This is so good
I had to bookmark it. Waking Up is VERY intense so I had to back off as well, it is very difficult to back off but I wasn't getting any where so now they know how I feel and see how I am preparing. I can only hope that they will come around eventually.
awakening with options
"dealing with family and friends who don’t understand and who become frightened, angry, or worse."
In one sentence: help those waking up to learn about subject(s) that interest them AND help them find multiple possible scenarios to work through that situation.
Good topic, thanks.
"awakening with options"
is why I'm here.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history, the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and, for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it... always."
~ Mahatma Ghandi
our roles
Each of us has our role, though we aren't dictators who know the best solution.
My options may not be right for you.
Each of us can help people awaken and find their own solutions. When the election cycle comes around we all want to pull together to do what is needed in our state political parties on the ground.
Do what you can...
through thoughtful interaction. Try to encourage others to research a little on their own after you give them some "food for thought". Be open minded with their viewpoints and concerns and steer them down the path of freedom and liberty. If after all that they still poo poo your teachings then cut them loose. One day they will be lying in bed reflecting on the days events and something will trigger them to go back to a conversation they had with you about sound money, taxation, preservation of freedom, the united nations, unconstitutional wars, etc and BAM a light will go off... it's at that point they will understand!
In our time people are troubled, disappointed,
confused, so we have good opportunities to help seekers find firm ground with freedom ideas -- and to get the stuck ones at least questioning their core beliefs. Rosenberg's article offers thoughtful, excellent advice.
A preacher cannot preach
nor can a doctor heal in his hometown.
Wish I had read
this a year ago although I'm not sure it would have changed anything.
This Journey has really shown me who some people I thought I knew really are. Actually it seems to have almost flipped my circle of friends and family. The ones I thought were smart and good are not and others I never thought I would be close to ,now are my favorite people to be around.
The biggest thing in the article that I can relate to is the family not taking you seriously. Even though I am 48 I am the youngest of 5 children and I practically despise them now for thier disrespect. Not to mention they are neocon right wing Bush lovers. Even the sweet christian Jesus lover really thinks we should be bombing all these counties and need to get Iran!
It is sad really because I have lost respect for them.
IT's sad to me too because
IT's sad to me too because the sweet christian (fake) jesus lovers are my parents. Sometimes they say things and I literally gasp at their moronic beliefs. They call me too radical. I too have lost respect. It's sad.
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Let them read and argue with these famous men!
Famous Quotes about the Federal Reserve:
"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." — Henry Ford
"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it." - Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations which grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father conquered.” - Thomas Jefferson
"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States" - Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.” - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
“The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.” - Abraham Lincoln
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." - James Madison
"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." - President Woodrow Wilson
"This Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill." - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
"By this means government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft." — John Maynard Keynes (the father of 'Keynesian Economics' which our nation now endures)
"While boasting of our noble deeds were careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery. — Horace Greeley
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
Oh Paul Paul Paul
There's a big difference between friends and families, and to lump them together is just not a good idea.
You have two responsibilities: 1) take care of yourself. 2) Help your family, if you genuinely care for them.
Lots of family members don't get along, so cutting the ties is probably smart, especially in these perilous times. But if you do care for them, be supportive without giving anybody a lecture of freedom, tyranny. I tried this with my mother and it went nowhere. She did, however, enjoy watching Ron Paul in the debates.
Family members rarely take you seriously anyway. They remember when you were a baby and stuck your big toe in your mouth. How can you possibly be credible now?
Give your friends the info - preferably by email - and let it go at that.
But remember, remember, remember: Take care of yourself. Nobody else will, or as well.
Zen Zen Zen....You know I never figured out
your stance against marijuana? You never answered me... I know totally off topic but I'm like an elephant at times.
Oh and ZEN your wife disagrees with you (Hypothetically) you should just cut her loose.. you know.. cause well that's the same exact advice you just gave paul..
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This is an EXCELLENT article.
Many things in the article are familiar to me, and there are also some great hints listed.
"never keynes a running system"
"Doing nothing is almost always an option and is very often the best option." Daniel Hannan
I thought so, too...
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"Let them protest all they want, as long as they pay their taxes.” ...credited to Al Haig, Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/liberty_outlook/
http://www.dailypaul.com/blog/1125
Ron Paul=Red Pill
important
all I had to do to get my dad on our side was to tell him the Federal Reserve is privite...sometimes one little detail works magic instead of holding seemingly unending conversations.
"no married man is genuinely happy if he has to drink worse whisky than he used to drink when he was single."
-- H.L. Mencken
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I agree. Sometimes the
I agree. Sometimes the smallest details are what can make the most significant difference.
For example, ask someone who feels they are patriotic if the President has the authority to take our nation to war. Most will say yes. Then ask them if they believe in the Constitution. Most will say yes to that as well. Then tell them that ONLY Congress has the constitutional authority to declare war on behalf of our nation... and then hand them a pocket constitution so that they can look it up themselves.
The Federal Reserve being private is also another good one...