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Election Fraud? Elections Are a Fraud!

Aug 24, 2009

Election Fraud? Elections Are a Fraud!
by Thomas L. Knapp

Seldom goes by a major election without allegations of rampant fraud, and last week’s presidential poll in Afghanistan went as per the usual in that respect.

Unfortunately, these allegations tend toward the particular while entirely missing the general case: Most elections, in most places — places with considerable tax revenues or the equivalent, anyway — are fraudulent, if not by design or intent, at the very least by default.

The prize generally goes to the politician who can most convincingly rattle off outrageous whoppers to voters from one side of his mouth, persuade his major campaign contributors that they’ll make their money back a thousand-fold on government contracts and similar graft out of the other, and most deftly suborn the mechanical aspects of the polling to his will by fair means or foul.

But the fraud goes deeper than that. It’s built into the very foundation of democratic politics. The notion that one individual, elected by majority vote, can in any way be said to “represent” the entirety of a constituency based on mere geography is absurd on its face.

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by lottery not by vote

Individual liberty will survive more successfully in a world where public officials are selected by lottery, not by election.

Those who seek election, on the whole, are sociopaths. Exceptions are few and far between. And the masses are so readily (and so eagerly) manipulated.

Select government officials by a lottery from a pool of qualified servants; the higher the office, the more evidence of qualification required.

Democracy is complete bullshit, as evidenced in recent years by 90% of our elected officials. A benevolent dictator would preserve individual liberty better than this swamp of slime.

Did any of you see the differences between the regulation of...

Slot machines and the regulations on DIEBOLD machines? (This was posted by Trigger on Break the Matrix a while ago.) It was absolutely stunning!

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-I favor extending to Israel the same honest friendship that Jefferson and the Founding Fathers urged us to offer to all nations. ...This means I also favor discontinuing foreign aid to governments that are actual or potential enemies of Israel,--Ron Paul

We do not need to get good laws to restrain bad people,
we need to get good people to restrain bad laws. --
--G.K. Chesterton

Voter fraud in MO

Fifty voters were listed as wrongfully casting votes; 32 of these listing vacant lots for home address. If there really are 32 people who deliberately listed bogus addresses, that is not an insignificant number, and justifies a closer look.

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/80416.html?124352...

direct democracy would be

direct democracy would be nice, with provisions in place to keep federalism intact.

Ventura 2012

Heh, I'd consider it...

provided a super super majority is needed to declare war. (I'm talking 80%)

That's the problem with

That's the problem with democracy. People think violence is morally just if they have a majority. I say they are wrong. Violence should only be an individual decision.

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Free yourself.

Direct democracy would be nice?!?

So you're a supporter of mob rule, huh? Who cares about individual liberties, so long as the majority can get their way, right?

You have a long long way to go to understanding what actual liberty is all about.

I agree

Direct democracy is the WORST possible scenario for preserving individual liberty.

Hopefully I'm not making this point too subtley:

People are fucking idiots.

The more people involved in a decision or a plan, the more idiotic the results.

You want the results of democracy? Just take a random survey of the top rated videos on YouTube, and then look at a random sampling of the comments.

Please, give me a philosopher king anyday over the Idiocracy of the democratic process.

If we actually had the balls to enforce a eugenics program, maybe this sentiment wouldn't have any relevance. But for several generations, we have rewarded the cockroaches with more cheese.

Democracy brought us GW Bush and then it brought us BH Obama. How can any intelligent person be in favor of democracy? (Except that it's so easy for the moneyed and powerful to manipulate).

the F*** are you going on

the F*** are you going on about? Obviously there would be a constitution that protects liberties.

Ventura 2012

And who gets to declare the rules in a direct democracy?

You don't think these things through very much before posting them, do you? Tell me, who makes the rules in a direct democracy?

The people...

The majority of the people...

Your problem is that you are so full of yourself that you wont give credit for someone else understanding the minuscule details of something. Look at how long I've been a member here. Can't we mvoe beyond the simpleton arguments that you might have on the street with the common statist?

Ventura 2012

That's mob rule

You are a common statist.

Hasnt Worked Out Very Well In the Past

I am reminded of an old John Kerry Poster I saw that said something like "Centuries of Failure Dont Mean A Thing".
It doesnt matter how the state is organized, it will always act upon the same instinct, to exploit one class to benifit another. Majority rule is a worst case IMO for whoa be ye who finds themselves in the minority.

We in the West promote the concept

of one person one vote. In Afghanistan historically people are represented by their clan leaders who work things out with each other by concensus.
Is their way necessarily inferior? At least you know your representative if he's your clan leader, and you're governed by the leadership of your clan (family) making government local.
The absense of a strong central government appeals to me. It's absurd that we're trying to force our ways on them. They should decide.

We should only have a

We should only have a national government that does two things:

Provides us protection along our borders, and ensure that trade between the states is smooth (i.e. arbitrating tarriff arguments, etc).

Money should be regional and free market, ALL "public" services should be private (roads, sewage, etc - competition = higher quality and lower price), people should be allowed to keep their entire earnings, our property rights should be fully enforced by ourselves and governance should be done on a community basis (I.e. no government - if people want to steal or cause trouble they are rejected by the community as a whole and cannot survive - no one to do business with, buy provisions from , etc).

It's working in a few villages/towns in Iraq - and bandits wouldn't DARE attack them because every man is armed and policing is done by ALL and enforcement of rights is done by the community.

Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - Ludwig Von Mises.

It's late August and I'm 80% cash and 20% long term Puts AGAINST the market. Gold is also going down. Want to know why?

http://www.investophoria.com

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Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - Ludwig Von Mises.

"ALL "public" services

"ALL "public" services should be private"

Why should border protection and interstate commerce not be done privately?

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Free yourself.

My favorite voter fraud video:

http://vodpod.com/watch/556506-diebold-accidentally-releases...

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

One of my favorite election videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

New Hampshire Primary - Sham Chain of Custody

Y'all remember this?

(Around 4:50) "Seals" with releasable adhesive