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Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ?

"Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf

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A friend sent me this--FDA page link did not work--it said

"Page Not Found---may have been moved"-----until I removed some excess dots and tried the link again. Here it is, unless they moved the page again!
http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ucm072141.htm
Here are some comments from a person checking into this:
"in the first 1000+ pages of health reform, there was a section between pages 1001 and 1005 dealing with implantable medical devices. On the surface it seemed to be only about heart implants and monitors, and some other implantable parts like my fake knee……but when I saw all the changes to statutes and code, definitions and such……I started running it down. After back tracking all the changes….I began seeing lists of “stakeholders” who had “vested” interests in these “devices……..Angel-mark, Monsanto, Choicepoint, Accenture and Verichip…"---

E.~

Good job. Thats it exactly. This language is kept very vague. Yes these devices do include breast implants etc but not limited to these items. These "stakeholders" received large parts of the "stimulus" funds also. Verichip stock up 300%

Thanks for the link

I'm going through the 1018 page document looking for your suggestion of microchips. Can you be more specific like a page number or near what page? I will go through the entire bill later.

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Support Ron Paul's healthcare bill.

H.R. 1495, the Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009 (12 pages long)

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

They don't need implantable chips or bloodhounds.

Cell phone, laptop, OnStar, credit/debit cards, toll tags, tag readers, etc.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091114/NEWS01/91114025/M...

class III device

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_device
Class III: General Controls and Premarket Approval

A Class III device is one for which insufficient information exists to assure safety and effectiveness solely through the general or special controls sufficient for Class I or Class II devices. Such a device needs premarket approval, a scientific review to ensure the device's safety and effectiveness, in addition to the general controls of Class I. Class III devices are described as those for which "insufficient information exists to determine that general controls are sufficient to provide reasonable assurance of its safety and effectiveness or that application of special controls ... would provide such assurance and if, in addition, the device is life-supporting or life-sustaining, or for a use which is of substantial importance in preventing impairment of human health, or if the device presents a potential unreasonable risk of illness or injury."[3]

Examples of Class III devices which require a premarket approval include replacement heart valves, silicone gel-filled breast implants, implanted cerebral stimulators, implantable pacemaker pulse generators and endosseous (intra-bone) implants (with the exception of root-form endosseous dental implants which were recently reclassified as Class II).

What are examples

of Class I or Class II devices?

Chipping

We are on the threshold of a one world government the reason is due to the fact that we have mismanaged our freedom and our financial success. We have been under attach since the beginning of our great republic. We never accepted orders or taxes from world leaders tied to church, state or banks. We decided to go it alone rather than accept the crumbs that are called entitlements.

This watered down bill and approach to dominate a free people with grand promise of free everything is really meant to enslave us. It will dissolve our current insurance business, kill our middle class, collapse our economy and give us the reason to have micro-chip technology to help this new government track and control what is left of a once proud nation.

Make no mistake the world leaders have been looking for this chance to finish the job that has been out of their reach for so many years. We are seeing a government that is dismantling an economy piece by piece in order of size, This is obvious first commercial banks, then mortgage and college loans, then auto industry, then healthcare can you see the exact order of progression.

This is being done while supporting a war to protect trillions of dollars of both world drug and oil supplies. We are not fighting a holy war over religion or terrorist. This are being manipulated to control the money.

GOD=Gold=Oil=Drugs anything with a trillion attached is ripe for the picking.

Soon it will be raining fat cats and big dogs. Let it rain.

"We are seeing a government that is dismantling an economy piece by piece in order of size, This is obvious first commercial banks, then mortgage and college loans, then auto industry, then healthcare can you see the exact order of progression. "

Why are you worried about the large corporations in this country who never worried about anything but what lines their pockets??
Let em fall! Hopefully something better will rise up out of the ashes.

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

Amen

The good news is that we are reaching enlightenment on a grand scale

Yes, ma'am!

It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

Total fearmonging!!! First

Total fearmonging!!!

First of all, the attached document only has 1018 pages.

Secondly, when reading about registry of medical devices starting on page 1003,
they are talking about defibrillators, pacemakers, spinal cord stimulators,
joint replacements, etc. Need something a lot more substantial than this
(regarding MOTB), though the entire bill is crapola.

Stuff like this is passed around to fragment us and put us in total mode of sky
is falling, chasing tail, running around with hair on fire over a total falicy
to make us look like wackos.

We need to stick with the plain and simple fact that government has NO RIGHT to
mandate healthcare policy or practice, PERIOD.

I agree with

The established government has no Constitutional right to mandate health insurance. Neither do they have a Constitutional right to:
1. Mandate auto insurance
2. Mandate social security
3. Require driver's licenses (a privilege legally)
4. Mandate fiat money
5. Taxation without representation
But they do all these things with the threat of going to jail and then they put you in jail.

Flick was an awakened ant in It's A Bug's Life and it wasn't until Flick revealed to the other ants they can keep the fruit of their own labor without surrendering their fruits to the bully grasshoppers. The ant colony did not accept Flick's perspective at first - it wasn't until Flick exposed the grasshoppers and fought back - then the other ants joined. We have the same situation -

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sniff..sniff...

eh, i think your pannies might be flamin' too..

Haironfire Member For 11 minutes and 45 seconds.

We all know this is going to pass. Now we know the real reason.

Hair on Fire.

Welcome to the daily paul. Do you think 19 arabs caused 9/11 by themselves.

It's kinda like a litmus test on your awakness.

celeste awesome find

it is like a needle in the haystack. All that vague language now, and when it passes oh boy then the real agenda appears. Thanks, for sharing this.

Now it all makes sense.

This is the reason they will stop at nothing to pass this bill, this is exactly what the NWO wants.

here is

the whole section straight from the horse's mouth

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111j40...

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"The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin" - Mark Twain

The tactic is to...

leave the wording purposefully vague in hopes of passing the bill. Then, they can use the courts to define just what the law says. In that two step process they can implement their designs without sounding too many alarms. This is the worst kind of deliberate deception.

Assert Your Authority

Assert Your Authority

Sounds about right.

This was one of my lines of thought, also. That old incrementalism trick.

I'd be interested to know what is meant by "Class II" and "Class III" devices.
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"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson

I'm not saying they aren't planning microchips

but concluding this from the above-quoted passages is tenuous at best. There are all sorts of implantable medical devices.

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They need

To name these devices. Everything else is spelled out in triplicate. You should read the section in its entirety. It starts on page 1001.

Wow

Thanks...

You should join the RLC

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Thank you, Celeste

for staying on top of this.

thanks for posting

Amazing, right at the very end...just when they think most people will give up reading...good catch.

google: Katherine Albrecht, a privacy advocate, radio host, author, and leading opponent of RFID,

Come on people think. How

Come on people think. How are they going to offset the failed SSI & Medicare system ? They are going for the bait & trick of "prevention" ..How will they monitor prevention ? How will they monitor doctors orders ? How will they monitor your eats & habits.. This is what the whole deal is about ..They have to provide less cost to offset the failed systems losses..Don't you get it yet ...This crap is to eventualy become the source to offset the Coalition Countrys failed systems ..America is being sucked into the WHO to try & make the other Country's failed systems solvent...They believe the more the meerier...Solvency by increasing the base number..Control costs by controlling habits .Control habits by RFID chip...This is it , the big lie.
Wake up, this is the big fight ..
Good people do Good deeds
and are no respecter of person

gold is where you find it .

Read the bill

The section on the registry starts on page 1001. Read it in its intirety. I just think we should know whats in this.

Doesn't sound that way

I don't follow your logic. It sounds like a requirement for a database of all medical instruments, which would include any implants.

I know what it sounds like

Shouldn't we know for sure ?

Federally recommended vacines

The term ‘federally recommended vaccine’
means an approved vaccine recommended by the Advisory
Committee on Immunization Practices (an advisory com
mittee established by the Secretary, acting through the Di
rector of the Centers for Disease Control and Preven
tion).’’.

Another section

The Secretary shall collect
such data as may be required to establish premiums and
payment rates for the public health insurance option and
for other purposes under this subtitle, including to
improve quality and to reduce racial, ethnic, and other dis
parities in health and health care.

Somalia, here I come

So it's just a way to identify people? What's wrong with how we identify ourselves now? I should let them know most of us are cool with carrying around our driver's license and insurance cards, they don't really need to go through all that trouble so we don't have to carry our wallets anymore, it's not that big of a deal.

Sometimes I feel like we're all going to be "the hunted" in that awful movie "surviving the game"

I attached the bill

I am currently going blind trying to read it and make sense of it.

Wonder how much stock Obama

Wonder how much stock Obama and some members of Congress and/or their family members have in these RFID microchip companies?

Isn't it said over and over again..."Follow the Money?"

I'm thinking this means pacemakers and stuff

Not positive, but it really seems that way.

I agree, it seems to be a

I agree, it seems to be a way to keep an accounting of the track records of people's medical devices.

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

I hope so too

The first part is for the already mandated Electronic Medical Records (EMR) and the next section is hopefully for Medical Devices like you said.

Read page 58 & then read the HITECH ACT of 2009

We are so lucky as to be the beneficiary of a Machine-Readable Identification Card....to store our wonderful electronic health records on....As per the HITECH Act that has been funded with 19 Billion from the marvelous Stimulus Package Bill that was passed in Febuary.

So included in the Stimulus Bill was already a plan to convert our medical records into Electronic Health Records (EHR). The H.R. 3200 is just another stone in the foundation that has been layed.

From my understanding, once the ground work is setup in the hospitals to make them all electronic, then this Act could be changed or ammended or another bill swept through in the future to upgrade our machine-readable identification cards to implantable RFID chips...at the Sectretary's discretion...based on the data he/she collects on the reliability, etc. of such a device.

At some point in the future, in order to recieve health care, and eventually we all need to see a doctor, we theoratically would have to be chipped.

is this real?

or some joke?...don't know what and who to believe anymore...

Serious as a heart attack,

a class II device which is implantable is the RFID.

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