
Beck is trying to highjack the liberty movement ...
Submitted by Ralph Waldo on Fri, 09/18/2009 - 07:20
for ratings and will try to control and de-rail it at some point. Never forget - he is Murdoch's boy, does whatever Murdoch tells him to do and Murdoch is a Neo-con blue blood!
BE NOT DECEIVED - GB is a huckster and fraud!
An enemy unrecognized within the ranks, is the most dangerous kind.















He's been trying to
for almost a year now - (like 50 times); but we're too smart to fall for his blithering drivel. And did you see today on MSNBC that 2 groups are fighting over who really started the Teabag parties/movement? Yeah, we threw the first ones back in 2007.
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
Oh you forgot to mention he gets paid
$$$50,000,000$$$$ a year to LIE!!!!!
The left now has Tom Woods
The left now has Tom Woods in their cross-hairs... this ticked me off... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/16/becks-guest-list-in...
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"You are a den of Vipers.I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out."
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makes me want to puke. They
makes me want to puke. They totally took that Jeff Hummel quote out of context, too. I just saw the source.
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agreed with carlin-equities
if you look at all of news corp's holdings, they hardly push a neo-conservative agenda. much of the programming on the fox and FX (simpsons, family guy, it's always sunny, etc.) are pretty "liberal." the ny post, GQ, vogue, myspace and 20th century fox (films) can hardly be categorized as neo-conservative.
fox news serves a niche as a "conservative" cable news alternative to CNN, msnbc, etc. like carlin said, it's all about the $$$
right, and if the $$$ means
right, and if the $$$ means you have to read Bush administration scripts on air, do it!
Fox sports is pretty conservative, by the way.
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Could be that Glenn Beck is pushing the limits as far as he can
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
though. We have to understand he is controlled, but maybe he is doing as much as he can within his contract limits. It is hard to tell. He has to push pro war ideals because GE I believe owns Fox, so pro war they will be, but we have to make use of him and hijack his 912ers to our side. I don't know which side he is on for sure, but we all must also understand that anybody in the mainstream is going to have to live partially within the mainstream, even our own candidates. We have to fit the bill, fill the position, and then start raising hell. The problem is, that when people in the spotlight who are truly on our side, try to play this way, we may think they are infiltrators, so we have to be very careful. It is a very rough game to play, but we have to use every bit of truth we can take, even if they are RINO's we have to utilize them to the fullest extent.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
GE does not own Fox.
They own NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC.
Fox "pushed" war because most Americans supported war. I think all the networks were "pushing" it early on. If they were anti-war in the beginning of the war and lead up to it, they would have lost viewers. I think what Murdoch does hire people that will promote views that capitalize on the public mood at any given time, preferring those with big personalities. It's just business. I really don't think there is a secret agenda.
Things look to be moving into place
for Palin to(hijack) be the 'rogue' liberty candidate, GB is a stooge.
The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!
Evidence for Murdoch being a neo-conservative?
?
I doubt Murdoch places any political allegiance above devotion to maximization of profit.
War is the most profitable
War is the most profitable activity for bankers and businessmen.
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Well, do we know what Murdoch's stock portfolio
was? Did he have large positions in defense contractors?
LOL.
How about you go do a little research. It's not that hard to find if you're actually looking for it.
Ok, I've tried and I haven't been able to find it on the web.
Since you're knowledgeable on this, can you point to where this information is?
Yes, a this point it is
Yes, a this point it is obvious with all his shilling for the neo-con Palin.
go to TCUnation.com, and see what the neo-con has done with with new Ron Paul style information as presented on Glenn Beck. They have rejected none of the old Bush neo-con ideology, and have merely piled on the Glenn Beck truths and half truths into an amalgamated abomination of cognitive dissonances. These people live in fear of the "islamic and marxist 5th column" LOL. We're the tin foil heads?!?!?!?!
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Glenn Beck in 911 Ripple Effect
Watch Glenn Beck in this documentary.
You will see that he is a fraud and a puppet:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3332031880486387141...
I just got done watching it.
There is no doubt that Glenn Beck is being used to hijack the freedom movement, spread disinformation, and deceive Americans that are on the brink of learning the truth.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
"Freedom brings people together." - Ron Paul
Beck Bull
If Beck apologizes for dumping on canidate Paul and then has an honest report on WTC7 two and one half second freefall (which has been included in NIST report), then I might listen to his (to this point) bull.
Culture is Religion externalized.
uhhh...are you just figuring this out?
this is an excellent blog post that I have been sending out lately.
http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/A-Message-To-The-Revolu...
How about someone drafts a letter.
Asking Beck to do a hour long segment on the Federal Reserve. Have it sent to him by the Liberty Movement. He can have guests on Like the good ole Doc. Eustace Mullins, Peter Schiff, etc. Explaining to the people what the Federal Reserve really is and who is behind it.
Just to see if he would do something of this nature to prove he is with us. Tell him it is all well and good of him to go after Acorn, Jones, Pelosi, Reed, Obama, but he should go after the real target that is behind all of this mess.
***********Ron Paul for POTUS 2012***********
*************Obama Is A Communist!************
**********Repeal the 17th Amendment**********
Double the size of the House of Representatives
$$$$$$$$$AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE$$$$$$$$$$
***********Ron Paul for POTUS 2012***********
*************Obama Is A Communist!************
**********Repeal the 17th Amendment**********
Double the size of the House of Representatives
$$$$$$$$$AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE$$$$$$$$$$
Good Idea
!
Beck...
earns his paycheck and owes his current/future ratings, (he does play a small role here as well), and media career to his new boss, Mr. Murdoch. Mr. Beck is given an area of wiggle room in order to play out his shows on Fox Entertainment but has strict instructions on where and where not to go with his material. He was "drafted" from CNN to Fox because of how he "handles" a large segment of republican voters. He has the touch. There is a mass of Fox News faithfuls who hang on his every word and believe wholeheartedly that he is a conservatives conservative. Nothing can be further from the truth.
Ron Paul is my President!
only the weak minded
I'm sorry to say anyone from the daily Paul or better anyone who considers themselves a DR PAUL supporter can never support Beck 100%, remember folks he thinks the U.S should police the world DR Pauls biggest peeve. BECK IS JUST ANOTHER PART OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM !!!!!!!!!!!!
You haven't
been paying attention lately have you? He is changing his tune about that lately. Are you so weak minded that you think everyone is so dam smart they have a secret plan or agenda? Ever think He is learning as he goes just like the rest of us. It's a tv show. Noone is planning on making him king for goodness sake. If you want everyone to be a clone of Ron Paul you are going to be sadly disapointed always. GB seems more in line with the good Dr,s thinking every day. Give a child time to grow. Wether intentional or not he has given us a good opening to reach some otherwise difficult to reach people. Gees nobody should idolize any body even Ron Paul (although I must admit....) Why have it in for the guy? I'm curious to see where he goes with all of this. I don't expect him to be perfectly in line with the way I think and believe, but he has been suprising me with his new awakenings. Did you hear what he said about RPs foriegn policy on his radio show? it's on youtube. Someone had it posted on here recently.
I can tell you where he is
I can tell you where he is going with this. He is building up credibility to take this movement and drive it off a cliff whenever the time is right. Timing is everything.
how?
his audience is not yet part of our movement.
some will find us, others will follow him.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
Agree
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Probably Is
You don't get $80 million a year (on another thread I guess), y'all are saying. Don't know how ya know that but anyway.. You don't get that kind of stuff for being a blond-headed televised Alex Jones.
The stuff that he leaves out is probably the dead-give-away! And, some choice words from time to time.
Alex doesn't support the "natural born citizen" argument as far as I'm aware. But, takes the "governments" stand hook, line 'n sinker. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've only seen one page that states his position, one from his own website.
I Don't Trust Beck
I saw how disrespectfully he treated Ron Paul. I have watched him talk out of both sides of his mouth. I visit his site or watch his show once in a while to keep tabs on him. At one point he was asking for photos and the names/ addresses of people participating in the 9/12 Project. That's when I really started to distrust him. I expect that he will sell out everyone who has trusted and followed him.
Proud member of Ron Paul's Revolution
Glen Beck (and other neocons)
There are issues where Glen Beck--and "conservatives" like him--will be on our side, and others where we must emphasize our differences, and their serious flaws.
I think that Glen Beck (or Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter) and other squawckmeisters and chatterboxes should be welcomed where they have something to contribute, but should not be seen as spokesmen for our movement until they have throroughly assimilated our positions on Civil Liberties, foreign policy, sound money and the gold standard, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, local and State secession and other clearly libertarian positions.
Mere opposition to President Obama's energy, health care, or "stimulus" policies, important as it is, really is not enough!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
Suggestion
The establishment mouth pieces use numerous effective methods to crush upstarts that challenge their stranglehold of power like labeling opponents dismissively as "crazy" which is an old one. Some newer ones include adding "er" like:
TeabaggERS
TruthERS-sad day when being labeled as a "truther" one seeking truth is a pejorative
etc.ER-you get the idea.
Is it wise to ER people who disagree here during internal debates?
I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt.
Not every libertarian was always a libertarian. Sure, the guy took a while to come around, but so what?
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
My Point Re: Beck
Boils down to:
1. Don't let the fact that a guy with a large following shows signs of coming around cause us to slack off.
2. Try to make sure that any newbies open to the message get RP/? branded ASAP
3. Be wary that this could be a setup-the people running "REASON" mag (The Official Libertarian Party Pub.) did exactly that-talked up RP early then turned on him hard during the early primaries and subsequently
Look if Beck gets people to hear good things they would not hear otherwise great. Just be aware if we cannot then grab their ear then he could turn many of them right back to the establishment RePUGs at anytime. This discussion, for me anyway, is not about a popularity contest-Love Beck/Hate Beck it is about how we best handle new developments. Coordinating how to deal with any new development should be discussed not just for this matter.
Does any of that sound unreasonable or is it necessary for us to scream Becks praises far and wide for us to benefit?
The vast majority of Becks 4 million? viewers hear him daily, how often do they see all the things we see here? If he decided to throw RP and similar candidates under the bus in favor of establishment candidates what could we do about that, what would we do about that? Better to be prepared while the sun is shining than to scramble about when a fast moving storm hits.
All of you "Anti-Beckers"
All of you "Anti-Beckers" crack me up. I make a comparison between Apple and Microsoft. Apple would not share their platform, and almost went broke twice. Microsoft on the other hand shared their software, and has never looked in the rear view mirror again. Don't take thie comparison on how the two companies run their day to day operations, because Apple blows Microsoft away on that front.
I'm just sayin that we have a huge opportunity to take what Beck has done and use it to our advantage. Like sharing our software like Microsoft does. I am also very wary of the Beckster, but he is definelty pouring fuel to the fire for our cause. It is up to us to move those people to the next level and throw the eye blinders away!
"The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance"- Thomas Jefferson
"It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than it is to vote for what you don't want and get it." --Eugene V. Debs
First of all Beck will not ever be controlling anything but his
Tears ! GB Is the worst type of parasitic bacteria imaginable .
We are fighting for our funkin lives here and this @sshole is playing the judas goat. I am not afraid of Beak,O'Rotten Hammy or Lush Bimbaugh
co-opting the truth! All 4 together couldn't stop Ron
Nor do I see anyone who follows him/them to be a real danger to anyone but themselves , c'mon really these nice but naive folks are in the same class with people who want to be lied too!.
KJV :Ishiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD
John 3:16
If it wasnt for the
If it wasnt for the RPRevolution, Beck would be whining about ACORN, closing Guantanimo, and begging for a war with Iran. Credit him for jumping on the bandwagon, and credit him MORE if he endorses our guys in 2010. Bow down if he endorses our guys in 2012.
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It's reversed
Beck is taking our efforts and making them work for Beck's backers, not us.
anyone who blindly follows
anyone who blindly follows one man is not an asset to this "movement" anyawy.
the people that get fooled by BECK or ALEX JONES and think they have no alternate motive are ,,, well fools.
Take the good stuff from them, and take it with a grain of salt, at least they are getting a message out there, what are you doing?
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
A portion of you
BLINDLY follow this movement! You don't look at all sides and research. You assume and quote.
whatever...
He is doing more than any of the other hacks on TV. Ill see how this plays out and call him out if he really goes against our movement. He did ask if Rand was the real deal, does have the Judge on his show often... maybe he is waking up.
Im not ruling him completely out until we get closer to next years elections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ
we better get that phony off the air!!!
we can't have someone in the msm talking about the founders and the constitution. how could we Ron Paul supporters ever take advantage of an opening like that? nope, if beck doesn't see things exactly like us it would be much better to silence him. at least we would still have __________ talking about our constitution on national television.
or
we sign up for his 912project. politely educate his followers on the subject of liberty. this is an opportunity to swell our ranks, why are we bitching? he just opened the door for dr. pauls message. beck wants to talk constitution folks, let's take it to him.
"An enemy unrecognized within the ranks, is the most dangerous kind."
excellent words mr. waldo, especially when you consider this works both ways.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
Beck, Jones and Palin. What
Beck, Jones and Palin. What a trio.
How so
Sorry, missing your point. Please clarify. Are you painting them all with the same brush?
Kind of
You have a lot of people on here who hate all three so I lumped them all together for that reason. The ones that like Jones seem to hate Beck and the Becksters seem to dislike the Jones'. Palin kid of speaks for herself, but most dislike her because of her warhawk mentality. It just seems like we are all divided on many of the small things but agree on the main thing....freedom.
I agree
on Beck and Palin. To me those two are thus far tools of the PTB witting or not. In Becks case I think it is witting, Palin I am not sure yet but the result is essentially the same. Jones gets a lot of criticism; some agenda free and legitimate but, IMO, a bit overdone, some clearly illegitimate and unspoken agenda driven. Thanks for your specific reply, I clearly understand the point you were making now.
BTW
it is worth repeating what was said below. Both wings of the vulture have successfully pulled the wool over the eyes of the masses by telling them what they want to hear and then doing whatever serves the vulture.
Is it not premature to proclaim Beck our hero and standard bearer when he is yet to deliver one thing of actual substance? Particularly since he definitely served the vultures interests and acted against our interests in the past?
On a related note: I also noticed quite a piling on Alex Jones over the Sheen matter as I have noticed before when there was the slightest opportunity to do so, over and above the standard anti-Jones buzz.
There is much (constructive) criticism that can be sent AJ's way but he has NEVER stabbed us in the back as Beck has done. Nor has any evidence been presented that shows Jones on the payroll of our opponent, while there is no doubt who pays Beck. I am not wanting to promote Jones but I will always remind all that he has UNFAILINGLY treated Dr. Paul with the utmost respect and provided him with an open forum to completely speak his mind without ever trying to spin or twist Dr. Paul's words.
Alex jones is a fearmonger
Alex jones is a fearmonger and guides his message away from certain topics
BUT
he is by far one of the best tools we have since WILLIAM COOPER was killed, I don't see anyone else stepping up, I'm certainly not doing anything other than posting on random obscure websites and putting silly political statements on my dog and car...
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Right now, where this
Right now, where this country is at today, I think that people need to be scared sh@tless so they wake up. If Alex can do that, more power to him I say.
Blessings )o(
Blessings )o(
Well I know for a fact that the left....
absolutely HATES Beck...probably more so than any other Fox News personality. The more Beck associates himself toward a libertarian philosophy, the less likely the left will ever consider any libertarian policy as legitimate. Just my two cents.
This is so true and cannot be stressed enough
He is a divider, not a uniter like Ron and Rand. If Beck's show was cancelled tomorrow, the movement would be in a much stronger position moving forward.
My two cents is that if Glenn Beck emerges as the leader of this thing (and he could make an arguable claim right now), then there will be a hard cap on growth of its popularity, and a flourishing cottage industry of Beck-monitoring that will turn up daily outrages to feed the evil/stupid/insane/racist narrative. This will be great for Glenn Beck; for the rest of the new protest kids, maybe not so much.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/136086.html
Interesting
Point. Thanks