I hope I stand out enough that people will want to know more about http://ronpaulchocolate.c.... I have 3 Degrees from MIT and basically figured out how to milk (chocolate) the Ron Paul adhocracy to start an open source business model.
Isn't this the Revolution against "American Idol"-atry and fiat currency that debases a civilization into one-dimensional thinking. There's this silly tendency to go back to valuing papers, stones and metals with pictures engraved on it like the value is something other than in exchange. It's precisely the fact that personal utility of dollar income is non-linear that we have a broken culture that doesn't know how to value things. This is the thing that competing commodity currencies are good for. Most people don't think enough about what money means, and instead focus on how much of it they have.
I had already asked him my question before the Q&A and he had heard of http://ronpaulchocolate.c... and enjoyed my belgian approach to teaching austrian economics. he already answered my question about why we should continue using federal reserve notes in light of the delicious so I look kinda stupid out of context.
The Ron Paul Chocolates are Channukah Gelt and our modern rebellion is in many the exact same sort of smashing of a false currency. Iconoclasm is a Jewish Tradition!
Hey Treg! I saw a post of yours on RonPaulForums. Did you get a chance to be Precinct guy (prelim. delegate) or what? I'm in Mesa. Let me know if you need any help out there. (East Valley Meetup)
Math and EECS undergrad, Masters EECS. I have no idea where this link is but I know what I said and how it was easily missing the RonPaulChocolate.com context given that people below though I was giving him gold coins.
Hey,
I liked what you had to say... At least it got me thinking.
I am a Bible College graduate with a B.S. degree - I get to speak at church sometimes - the last time I spoke, I preached (lectured, really, haha) on how Jesus (Y'Shua) confounded the Pharisees & Herodians in the NT book of Matthew - by demonstrating that their money (Roman coins) contained idolatry and deified Caesar - all the product of a wicked government, while they had intended to trap him with their question...
So, it reminded me of that study when you said that.
The bible is full of insight and is a guiding light for people who would change civilizations for the better since humanity repeats itself time and time again through history. You might like the essays on http://ronpaulchocoalte.c... and I would love it if others would contribute comments and insight.
Most Americans identify with the Bible and will go through some serious introspection when they consider the ways they put up idols to prevent something purely true from entering their mind. Ron Paul has a very simple message that is epitomized by his speech opposing the Congressional gold medal to the Dalai Lama and its ultimate passing much to the chagrin of China.
If this exchange doesn't obviate the need for a Ron Paul presidency then I don't know what does.
If the CNN/YouTube debate didn't obviate a major point, it's that Paul himself needs to show he knows the Bible to beat Huckabee in debate. Ron Paul is often called iconoclastic, precisely because he's trying to destroy the coercive idolatry of "worship our dollars or die" that essentially bonds the Liberty of future generations into debt to those who would buy it.
Ron Paul knows that every empire falls because of its currency being debased. A lot of the best historical examples are recorded in the Bible.
The fact that throughout the Bible these acts of iconoclasm against the graven images and abstractions of suppressors obviates to me that idolatry is a profound human tendency to value rhetoric and symbols over truth and meaning.
I hope I stand out enough that people will want to know more about http://ronpaulchocolate.c.... I have 3 Degrees from MIT and basically figured out how to milk (chocolate) the Ron Paul adhocracy to start a an open source business model.
Isn't this the Revolution against "American Idol"-atry and fiat currency that debases a civilization into one-dimensional thinking. There's this silly tendency to go back to valuing papers, stones and metals with pictures engraved on it like the value is something other than in exchange. It's precisely the fact that personal utility of dollar income is non-linear that we have a broken culture that doesn't know how to value things. This is the thing that competing commodity currencies are good for. Most people don't think enough about what money means, and instead focus on how much of it they have.
I had already asked him my question before the Q&A and he had heard of http://ronpaulchocolate.c... and enjoyed my belgian approach to teaching austrian economics. he already answered my question about why we should continue using federal reserve notes in light of the delicious so I look kinda stupid out of context.
The Ron Paul Chocolates are Channukah Gelt and our modern rebellion is in many the exact same sort of smashing of a false currency. Iconoclasm is a Jewish Tradition!
I was kind of disappointed by Ron Paul's answer about illegal immigration. I understand that Ron was trying to be sympathetic but to say he doesn't believe in fences is a big let down. So if the economy is good under his administration then we will have lax border security? Ron is a good man that I support more then other any candidate, but he has to remain as firm on illegal immigration as he would be on wars, big government, civil liberties and our money.
He has stated before that he is against fences and that he firmly believes that once the economy is better we will be wanting more workers. The border issue for Ron is more of securing it so we know who is coming and who is going. A weak border leaves us open to attack.
A fence ruins the environment and would require eminent domain as many small farms exist on the river and you can't build the fence in the river or too close to it for environmental reasons.
Sounds like I'm backing the wrong horse. I want someone tough on illegal aliens. Like Tancredo. I don't care if the war in Iraq goes on forever just as long as they stop the illegal invasion and occupation by Mexico. If not a fence, what? Chuck Norris? I don't think so. I want a wall along our border, and a wall that can be seen from space!!! Short of that, maybe a military bases set up every 50 miles that does round the clock survelience.
I hope you are kidding, because if you are not, the East Germans were cheering for wall to keep people from coming in until they realized that the wall was for them not go out.
His main goal is to take away the incentives and birthright citizenship to the illegals which will create much less desire to be here. If they have no jobs here, no free school, no free medical, no reason for pregnant mothers to come, there will be little reason for them to take a risk and cross. The military will guard the border for protection of terrorists, for lack of a better term.
I only caught 30 minutes but thanks to the person who posted the link. I clicked on it so quickly I forgot to see who did it....
It got me right to the Good Doctor..
I loved that whole thing. It was great. The questions and answers afterwards with people shaking his hand and taking pictures - those questions were especially good, and gave some good talking points... for example, treaty of versailles, wilson doctrine, illegal immigration as a symptom of a bigger problem... Gosh, I feel so educated everytime I hear him speak... I should be paying him tuition.
Wether these people were plants or just wanted to make the Dr. look good, they did a great job.... these are the questions that should be raised at Presidential debates instead of the usual yada yada yada....
I dont think these were negative plants, but positive ones!!! Good for them!
Wonderful event, wonderful man, kind and friendly to everyone!!! This was an awesome video... Try to See Ghouliani or Romney in this same position.
lots of Uh, Duh, Um, Er....
I'm in heaven, just Ron Paul being his natural self talking to people here and there. Not brushing anyone off completely, and answering questions directly and truthfully.
setup or not Ron Paul answered the question as he would if someone who was 10th generation american had just asked it. this is what i love about the guy. its not him, hes not trying to appeal to anyone, he simply wants to tell this message to people. thats it. and makes no apalogies for it. honestly i am voting for Ron Paul because of the issues that i disagree with him on. if i like it or not, i know EXACTLY how he will vote on ANYthing that comes across his desk.
finding an honestly politician is the true trillion dollar jackpot.
I know that guy personally. He is one of the most active, dedicated Ron Paul supporters in New Jersey. His question was legitimate, and he wasn't looking to argue; he just wanted a better understanding of Ron's stance. Not everyone is a plant.
It looked like he wanted to give Ron Paul a sounding space to state his views on illegal immigration.... I think he was a *positive* plant and Ron Paul did perfect!
They should have just played this instead of the debate on CNN, the questions from these people are so in depth and pure. It's so easy to answer these questions because they aren't laden with pitfalls and traps that is set up for Ron Paul but he dominates anyway.
Links
Part 1: rtsp://video.c-spanarchives.org/video/2007/20071203002/Video/wmv/20071203210000002.wmv
Part 2: rtsp://video.c-spanarchives.org/video/2007/20071203002/Video/wmv/20071203220000002.wmv
Ron is on Cspan right now - 4:35 AM
I'm watching him now on the internet
Cannot wait to watch the Exodus guy again
I almost choked when that happened.
shut up
that was me. i was making a point that he should bash on Huckabee with better bible rhetoric.
Hmmm...I was like
oh shite, everyone is going to think Ron Paul supporters are crazy...
Get your intention though. Thanks.
I hope I stand out enough
I hope I stand out enough that people will want to know more about http://ronpaulchocolate.c.... I have 3 Degrees from MIT and basically figured out how to milk (chocolate) the Ron Paul adhocracy to start an open source business model.
Isn't this the Revolution against "American Idol"-atry and fiat currency that debases a civilization into one-dimensional thinking. There's this silly tendency to go back to valuing papers, stones and metals with pictures engraved on it like the value is something other than in exchange. It's precisely the fact that personal utility of dollar income is non-linear that we have a broken culture that doesn't know how to value things. This is the thing that competing commodity currencies are good for. Most people don't think enough about what money means, and instead focus on how much of it they have.
I had already asked him my question before the Q&A and he had heard of http://ronpaulchocolate.c... and enjoyed my belgian approach to teaching austrian economics. he already answered my question about why we should continue using federal reserve notes in light of the delicious so I look kinda stupid out of context.
The Ron Paul Chocolates are Channukah Gelt and our modern rebellion is in many the exact same sort of smashing of a false currency. Iconoclasm is a Jewish Tradition!
Question:
What are your 3 degrees in? And where is the link of you speaking?
Treg / Tempe AZ
LOCAL!!!
Hey Treg! I saw a post of yours on RonPaulForums. Did you get a chance to be Precinct guy (prelim. delegate) or what? I'm in Mesa. Let me know if you need any help out there. (East Valley Meetup)
Math and EECS undergrad,
Math and EECS undergrad, Masters EECS. I have no idea where this link is but I know what I said and how it was easily missing the RonPaulChocolate.com context given that people below though I was giving him gold coins.
I thought it was good.
Hey,
I liked what you had to say... At least it got me thinking.
I am a Bible College graduate with a B.S. degree - I get to speak at church sometimes - the last time I spoke, I preached (lectured, really, haha) on how Jesus (Y'Shua) confounded the Pharisees & Herodians in the NT book of Matthew - by demonstrating that their money (Roman coins) contained idolatry and deified Caesar - all the product of a wicked government, while they had intended to trap him with their question...
So, it reminded me of that study when you said that.
Thank YOU for not being one of those anti-bible types
The bible is full of insight and is a guiding light for people who would change civilizations for the better since humanity repeats itself time and time again through history. You might like the essays on http://ronpaulchocoalte.c... and I would love it if others would contribute comments and insight.
Most Americans identify with the Bible and will go through some serious introspection when they consider the ways they put up idols to prevent something purely true from entering their mind. Ron Paul has a very simple message that is epitomized by his speech opposing the Congressional gold medal to the Dalai Lama and its ultimate passing much to the chagrin of China.
If this exchange doesn't obviate the need for a Ron Paul presidency then I don't know what does.
indeed...
I read his speech on why he was voting no on that... It thought it was very very good.
I guess my question for you, would be why do you think Exodus 20 & the second commandment would be a good speaking point for Dr. Paul?
Paul must beat Huckabee on Bible-ing
If the CNN/YouTube debate didn't obviate a major point, it's that Paul himself needs to show he knows the Bible to beat Huckabee in debate. Ron Paul is often called iconoclastic, precisely because he's trying to destroy the coercive idolatry of "worship our dollars or die" that essentially bonds the Liberty of future generations into debt to those who would buy it.
Ron Paul knows that every empire falls because of its currency being debased. A lot of the best historical examples are recorded in the Bible.
The fact that throughout the Bible these acts of iconoclasm against the graven images and abstractions of suppressors obviates to me that idolatry is a profound human tendency to value rhetoric and symbols over truth and meaning.
I hope I stand out enough
I hope I stand out enough that people will want to know more about http://ronpaulchocolate.c.... I have 3 Degrees from MIT and basically figured out how to milk (chocolate) the Ron Paul adhocracy to start a an open source business model.
Isn't this the Revolution against "American Idol"-atry and fiat currency that debases a civilization into one-dimensional thinking. There's this silly tendency to go back to valuing papers, stones and metals with pictures engraved on it like the value is something other than in exchange. It's precisely the fact that personal utility of dollar income is non-linear that we have a broken culture that doesn't know how to value things. This is the thing that competing commodity currencies are good for. Most people don't think enough about what money means, and instead focus on how much of it they have.
I had already asked him my question before the Q&A and he had heard of http://ronpaulchocolate.c... and enjoyed my belgian approach to teaching austrian economics. he already answered my question about why we should continue using federal reserve notes in light of the delicious so I look kinda stupid out of context.
The Ron Paul Chocolates are Channukah Gelt and our modern rebellion is in many the exact same sort of smashing of a false currency. Iconoclasm is a Jewish Tradition!
fences
I was kind of disappointed by Ron Paul's answer about illegal immigration. I understand that Ron was trying to be sympathetic but to say he doesn't believe in fences is a big let down. So if the economy is good under his administration then we will have lax border security? Ron is a good man that I support more then other any candidate, but he has to remain as firm on illegal immigration as he would be on wars, big government, civil liberties and our money.
Not new
He has stated before that he is against fences and that he firmly believes that once the economy is better we will be wanting more workers. The border issue for Ron is more of securing it so we know who is coming and who is going. A weak border leaves us open to attack.
A fence ruins the environment and would require eminent domain as many small farms exist on the river and you can't build the fence in the river or too close to it for environmental reasons.
Great
Sounds like I'm backing the wrong horse. I want someone tough on illegal aliens. Like Tancredo. I don't care if the war in Iraq goes on forever just as long as they stop the illegal invasion and occupation by Mexico. If not a fence, what? Chuck Norris? I don't think so. I want a wall along our border, and a wall that can be seen from space!!! Short of that, maybe a military bases set up every 50 miles that does round the clock survelience.
I hope you are kidding,
I hope you are kidding, because if you are not, the East Germans were cheering for wall to keep people from coming in until they realized that the wall was for them not go out.
www.ronpaul2008.com
www.teaparty07.com
Sarcasm (?)
Plowerman, that IS sarcastic, right? You sly dog, you!
Ron on Immigration
His main goal is to take away the incentives and birthright citizenship to the illegals which will create much less desire to be here. If they have no jobs here, no free school, no free medical, no reason for pregnant mothers to come, there will be little reason for them to take a risk and cross. The military will guard the border for protection of terrorists, for lack of a better term.
Replayed 4am
CSPAN website indicates it will re-air at 4:00am on CSPAN1
It was good...
I'm sure someone will post it. Nothing HUGE, but inspiring!
Ron Paul C-SPAN Rebroadcast Times
When will the C-SPAN 2 town hall meeting in Salem, NH be rebroadcasted?
I really want to see this
I really want to see this did anyone record it?
link?
fishing for a link.
Jesse Elder
www.ronpaulmoneybomb.com
The direct feed link is over...
The direct C-span link is now over, but the video will be posted... keep looking for it. its well worth watching...
Oh, Wanted to thank whoever it was who posted the link...
I only caught 30 minutes but thanks to the person who posted the link. I clicked on it so quickly I forgot to see who did it....
It got me right to the Good Doctor..
link anyone?
does anyone have the link? please.................
Video
When C-SPAN finishes cutting it, the video will be available here:
http://www.c-spanarchives...
Anyone got a link
for the video yet?
loved it.
I loved that whole thing. It was great. The questions and answers afterwards with people shaking his hand and taking pictures - those questions were especially good, and gave some good talking points... for example, treaty of versailles, wilson doctrine, illegal immigration as a symptom of a bigger problem... Gosh, I feel so educated everytime I hear him speak... I should be paying him tuition.
I wish they picked some of those questions
for the youtube debate. I believe those were some of the questions asked on youtube by supporters, but CNN never picked them.
Instead they pick the "You don't have a chance" and "Your supporters are conspiracy theorists" questions. Good to know who the enemy is.
Good job - wether plants or not...
Wether these people were plants or just wanted to make the Dr. look good, they did a great job.... these are the questions that should be raised at Presidential debates instead of the usual yada yada yada....
I dont think these were negative plants, but positive ones!!! Good for them!
I love that man
That's all I can say. Watching him ANSWER the questions...
I pray that he becomes the president....
Wonderful Event!
Wonderful event, wonderful man, kind and friendly to everyone!!! This was an awesome video... Try to See Ghouliani or Romney in this same position.
lots of Uh, Duh, Um, Er....
Don't forget
the guy in the wheelchair asking about legalizing medicinal marijuana and then getting brushed off by those guys.
I love this
I'm in heaven, just Ron Paul being his natural self talking to people here and there. Not brushing anyone off completely, and answering questions directly and truthfully.
Odd
I think that birth right kid was a setup...Notice the guy with the camera filming right away...Ron answered the question perfectly...
setup or not
setup or not Ron Paul answered the question as he would if someone who was 10th generation american had just asked it. this is what i love about the guy. its not him, hes not trying to appeal to anyone, he simply wants to tell this message to people. thats it. and makes no apalogies for it. honestly i am voting for Ron Paul because of the issues that i disagree with him on. if i like it or not, i know EXACTLY how he will vote on ANYthing that comes across his desk.
finding an honestly politician is the true trillion dollar jackpot.
Yeah
He did great, birthright citizenship and illegal immigration wouldn't be such a problem if our economy was sound and we didn't have a welfare state.
He shoots....he scores!
If that guy was a plant, I think Ron Paul may have another new voter there.
Not a set up
I know that guy personally. He is one of the most active, dedicated Ron Paul supporters in New Jersey. His question was legitimate, and he wasn't looking to argue; he just wanted a better understanding of Ron's stance. Not everyone is a plant.
There is hope for America.
and I believe this is his youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/us...
How about a positive plant...
It looked like he wanted to give Ron Paul a sounding space to state his views on illegal immigration.... I think he was a *positive* plant and Ron Paul did perfect!
:)
Just an initial perception; i am glad he really is a true supporter:)
I love this!!!
Ron is getting gold coins, dollar bills with his face stamped on it, and donations...He is so upbeat:)
gold coins were CHOCOLATE
http://ronpaulchocolate.c... Choconomics: the "Belgian" school of economics...
Amirh, Do you live in NH or
Amirh,
Do you live in NH or were you there with the grassroots people?
I live in Boston
I'm in boston. just finished my master's at MIT. doing this because It's like "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" all over again.
lol
fooled me, they looked gold from the camera angle they were at.
Ron Paul is awesome here
They should have just played this instead of the debate on CNN, the questions from these people are so in depth and pure. It's so easy to answer these questions because they aren't laden with pitfalls and traps that is set up for Ron Paul but he dominates anyway.