
FBI caught in OKC Bombing Cover up- Breaking news
Submitted by DaleinAdaOklahoma on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 20:31
Please forgive me if this has been posted..tonight is poker night so I don't have much to say besides........No kidding huh...now lets see all those video tapes from 9/11.....Another crack in the wall.
Attorney: OKC bombing tapes appear edited
OKLAHOMA CITY – Long-secret security tapes showing the chaos immediately after the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building are blank in the minutes before the blast and appear to have been edited, an attorney who obtained the recordings said Sunday.
"The real story is what's missing," said Jesse Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney who obtained the recordings through the federal Freedom of Information Act as part of an unofficial inquiry he is conducting into the April 19, 1995, bombing that killed 168 people and injured hundreds more.
Trentadue gave copies of the tapes to The Oklahoman newspaper, which posted them online and provided copies to The Associated Press.
The tapes turned over by the FBI came from security cameras various companies had mounted outside office buildings near the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. They are blank at points before 9:02 a.m., when a truck bomb carrying a 4,000 pound fertilizer-and-fuel-oil bomb detonated in front of the building, Trentadue said.
"Four cameras in four different locations going blank at basically the same time on the morning of April 19, 1995. There ain't no such thing as a coincidence," Trentadue said.
He said government officials claim the security cameras did not record the minutes before the bombing because "they had run out of tape" or "the tape was being replaced."
"The interesting thing is they spring back on after 9:02," he said. "The absence of footage from these crucial time intervals is evidence that there is something there that the FBI doesn't want anybody to see."
contined.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_oklahoma_bombing_video
UPDATE: Digg link..thanks rocketman
http://digg.com/politics/Oklahoma_City_Bombing_Tapes_Suspici...















I have posted these before but it's been awhile
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/federal_murder.html
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=155
http://www.apfn.net/OKC-pogo.htm
I know I've mentioned this before
but ......doesn't the book THE FINAL JIHAD bother anyone other than ME?
1. written by the brother of the governor of OK during the okc bombings
2. written BEFORE okc happened but wasn't printed until afterwards
3. book involves the same scenario that played out for real in OKC
3. character in book named......THOMAS MCVEY....? huh? seriously? how many creepy coincedences need to occur until it becomes apparent that maybe they are not coincedences at all?
google this book THE FINAL JIHAD if you do not know what I'm talking about.
baubaublacksheep
I can't count
whoops
baubaublacksheep
Something else of interest
It was known to most there were more than 1-2 conspirators in the truck bomb plot of the FP Murrah building in OKC. If so then why was Timothy McVeigh put to death and not Terry Nichols ? Was McVeigh the most likely to spill the beans on the FBI and the ATF. Terry Nichols implored John Ashcroft to come to where he was in prison and he would tell all. Ashcroft essentially gagged Nichols and demanded he see no one from the press.
Much like he gagged Sibel Edmonds. Wonder what Ashcroft has to hide along with Eric Holder they've got lots to hide.
Were there additional explosive charges and additional bombers?
There are many problems with the official story of the bombing. Let's start with McVeigh's whereabouts on April 17.
McVeigh had been filmed by a security camera at a nearby McDonald's 24 minutes before the time stamped on the truck rental agreement, wearing clothes that did not match either of the men seen at Elliott's.
There is no plausible explanation of how he traveled the mile and a quarter from McDonald's to the rental agency, carless and alone as he claims, without getting soaked in the rain.
The three people interviewed agreed John Does 1 and 2 were dry. According to Stephen Jones, who has seen the interview transcripts, it took 44 days for the FBI to convince the car rental agency owner that John Doe 1 was Timothy McVeigh. And in the end they did not dare put him on the witness stand, for fear of what might happen under cross-examination.
There is also an unanswered question with regard to the truck, namely what was the Army doing with a Ryder Truck just before the Murrah blast?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok.html
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
You know what's funny?
This is actually OLD NEWS. The FBI finally releasing the tapes is news....but I knew what WOULDN'T be on them....so did this guy.
baubaublacksheep
Would a class action law suit by this lawyer representing we
the people get answers to many questions and zero in on an accountability of those individuals involved? I will support this and if I see enough interest here on dp, I will contact Trentadue and find out if this is possible. It could start a precedent.
"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner
"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner
Consider
me interested.
more power to you my friend...
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
What does it say
When this story was on the first page of Yahoo and AOL for a short while yesterday but today NOTHING mentioned about it on mainstream cable tv? Has anyone seen ANY mention of this on TV?
baubaublacksheep
yea baubau....i agree
the ridiculous dancing baby ...........dancing to beyonce was all over mainstream news but this? nahhhh
baubaublacksheep
Yeah
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Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk&feature=player_em...
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"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
Is this
even being discussed on mainstream media?
baubaublacksheep
of course not
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
I wonder who left that building in the moments prior...
...to the explosion.
Four cameras coincidentally stop recording just before and then begin taping right after the explosion? This is what they expect us to believe?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
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This is just like the Pentagon attack on 9/11
Where the FBI confiscated and sequestered all of the video tapes in the area within hours of the attack.
We now know that they did this to cover up the fact that the plane (yes, there WAS a large plane that was seen by all of the witnesses headed toward the Pentagon) did NOT hit the building, but rather flew over while the damage was done with preplanted explosives.
This fact is proven by corroborated eyewitness testimony gathred by two researchers from California called Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) who went to Arlington VA and video recorded interviews with key witnesses with the best vantage points of the final seconds of the plane in flight before the alleged impact.
The witnesses reveal that the plane flew on the north side of the Citgo gas station across the street from the Pentagon, whereas it HAD to be on the south side to hit the light poles that were down and cause the directional damage to the building itself, which is compatible ONLY with a south side.
It was also seen flying away by multiple eyewitness such as Roosevelt Roberts Jr.
For years the FBI refused to release the video tapes from the Citgo station. Then, in 2006, they released a manipulated version of the Citgo tape just days after CIT announced their interview with Robert Turcios, a station employee and eyewitness who told CIT that he is "100 percent sure" that the plane was on the north side of the station.
The former Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission was recently asked about the Citgo tapes and dodged the question.
Im compleatly lost on this one.
I dont believe for one minute that the OK Cty bombing happened the way they said it did. But why? Why take all of that momentum and energy it gathered and put it all on a confessed Timothy McVey who said he did it as payback for ATF/FBI's Waco debacle? What did I miss? Its not like they blamed it on Iraq/ Saddam to justify a new Gulf war.There was some kind of cover up for sure- but all that has ever come from all that destruction is "payback for Waco" and the perpetrators were caught.
If you dig a little they tried to pass a version of the Patriot
Act back then right after OKC and it failed. It's about the destruction of civil liberties and the neutralization of the Militia. It was very effect against the militia but failed in the other front.
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
Yea, what's the motive?
I was never clear on the motive. My working theory is the OKC bombing was a trial balloon for establishing a "militia threat" to justify more gov't. I recall at the time the media and politicians where droning on endlessly about the "militia threat." Also, people at the time were beginning to ask about their "peace dividend" (remember that fantasy?) with the Russians and communism defeated it didn't seem to make sense to continue with cold war level spending. So I think of OKC as a test for establishing a threat to replace the Russians. As far as scaremongering goes I believe Middle Eastern terrorists make for much better theater.
The motive? Anti-terrorism legislation akin to the Patriot Act
http://www.orwelltoday.com/anti_terrorism.shtml
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OKC was the "9/11 of the 1990s"
Basically an inside job, done with the intent to blame certain groups that they wanted to demonize and target.
Even back when it happened, it was called a "Reichstag event".
Nobody with a brain ever thought that the gov't report about that had a shred of truth in it either.
Just another "work" by the powers that be.
Good way of putting it.
"the 9/11 of the 1990s"
But I didn't hear about people questioning it back then, though.
It wasn't until I got a computer/internet in 2001 that I saw the dispute regarding what we were led to believe about OKC by the gov't and media.
Im not really up on the OK fed bld thing
Whats the implication here? That the missing footage likely shows explosions going off before the van detonates, implying bombs placed inside the bld prior? My knowledge is limited to a few YouTube vids of news reports on the day saying that 2 or 3 bombs were diffused, secondary explosions and rescue operations on hold while "a third" bomb was being disabled. Its almost morally wrong to pay taxes anymore- all the money seems to be going to fund US sponsored terrorism.
If things were really as we were led to believe...
What contained in the CIA documents Trentadue requested could possibly cause grave damage to our national security?
"An FOIA request by Trentadue for 26 CIA documents was rejected in June. A letter from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which reviewed the documents, said their release "could cause grave damage to our national security." "
Lesson Learned
In any future "events" we need as many freedom lovers to run toward not away from the scene armed with your digital cameras and cam corders to record the events and then secure the footage.
The truth shall set you free!
I can't wait
to see how much of a NON STORY this is on MORNING JOE with Mika and Joe. Will it even be mentioned? What are the odds?
baubaublacksheep
Thanks for posting.
A convicted bank robber with 41 "self-inflicted" wounds before committing suicide.
What? The government lying?
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you.
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This story is HUGE !!!!
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Can everyone say, 'PENTAGON' ?
I can't believe the AP printed this story.
I was in shock when I saw this on the Yahoo main page.
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I hope someone has a video hidden and comes forth with it...
... that shows what was erased from the ones the FBI has.
"Four cameras in four different locations going blank at basically the same time.."
Will we ever find out who erased the tapes and what was on them? More than likely, anyone who knows anything will probably be slipping in their shower soon or shooting themselves four times in the back of the head or meeting with some other ~unfortunate accident~. :(
The Final Jihad
How is it that the BROTHER of the GOVERNOR of OKC during that bombing wrote a book called THE FINAL JIHAD ......BEFORE the actual bombing took place AND one of the characters in the books name is..........THOMAS MCVEY!!! good grief........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_ZBPfYUog
baubaublacksheep
I always believed that it
I always believed that it was a mistake to put McVeigh to death. I think he went out of his way to avoid making the appeals process longer so he would not have to tell the whole story...that is to say, *if* he was the one who blew up the building to begin with.
Though I was not shocked when someone like McVeigh was fingered for the crime--I had been listening to shortwave broadcasts of militia groups in those days--I am also not entirely convinced this was the work of a person in a militia. Other radical groups, such as Earth First!, were equally distrustful of the federal government at that time and the whole bombing actually sounds like something inspired by Ed Abbey's novel, "The Monkey Wrench Gang."
I confess I haven't really studied this issue, but I am not surprised to read something like this...
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
Instead of getting wrapped
Instead of getting wrapped around the axle over the ridiculous theory of explosives in the World Trade Center, you should all check out former Air Force General Benjamin Partin. General Partin was an authority on explosives and weapons systems for the U.S. Air Force. He examined some of the photographs of the Murrah Building after the bombing.
General Partin stated that it was impossible for the damage sustained by the Murrah Building to have been done by the fuel oil truck bomb. He based this on the fact that the reinforced supporting columns showed that they had been cut by small contact demolition charges. The ends of the columns show a sandblasted surface with the rebar sticking out. This was not indicative of an air blast. Also, some of the columns were lefts standing while those farther from the truck were taken down.
I am not an authority on demolition, but General Partin is. I saw his presentation I put a lot more faith in it than in the nonsense we were told about the "lone bomber". The truth is, there were a lot more people involved including a German national named Andreas Strassmeir. There were at least two federal informants in the group that brought the Murrah Building down, including Carol Howe. Apparently, the man who planned it was the "Reverend" Robert Millar, the head of the Neo-Nazi camp known as Elohim City.
Strassmeir was the guy McVeigh was trying to call with the famous calling card. It appears that government prosecutors were willing to allow these criminals to escape rather than to admit that there was prior knowledge on the part of some people who are supposed to be "law enforcement".
The whole story is available on the New American Magazine site - www.thenewamerican.com.
ask yourself
Who's pulling the strings? Personally I don't think it's white supremist's or jihad terrorists.......I think it's elements within OUR OWN government pulling the strings.........USING other organizations and movements to manipulate and blame.
baubaublacksheep
Not suprised at all... I
Not suprised at all... I wonder if this will go anywhere or just get swept under the rug (again)
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Any of you notice
that they beat to death this guy's brother?
baubaublacksheep
the lawer? “One of the
the lawer?
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Oh Yahoo is just one of those conspiracy sites lol
MIAC, oh MIAC, you better go check them there guys out lol
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2012, we want our country back
I wish they would get to the bottom
of this.
Unless Bill O'Reilly
or Sean Hannity or anyone else at Fox News doesn't show this....then this is just internet hoohaa.....just like all the 911 Truthers...... If Fox News doesnt say it, then it isn't.
baubaublacksheep
Digg it
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