Off Topic: Alpacas For Business
With economy busting - considering alpacas. Anyone raising or in business with alpacas? Where do you learn to weave their hair? If anyone breeding alpacas or in the business - please let me know. Thanks
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An Alpaca site in NJ for further information
http://www.bayspringsalpa...
We Own and Operate an Alpaca Ranch
Hi V1-P and all,
We've been earning our living from alpacas for 12 years now. Are we making money hand over fist? No, but we have a operating ranch, a wonderful lifestyle and have managed to improve our stock and be independent of employers for a long time...which was one of our goals.
Alpacas have been supporting economies in South America for years. When one looks at the numbers of alpacas as opposed to other livestock here, it is minimal and there is room for growth, lots of it. If one owns acreage, being on a farm schedule tax wise has its advantages. I can card, spin and make felt (material) out of this gorgeous fleece and take pride in the results. The fleece market could be said to be a cottage market at this time where "value added" is the ticket. Those who can have ranch or farm stores on their own property have added benefit to their income. In this economy, alpaca prices have come down considerably, while new buyers have the advantage of the improved animals which are being bred. Well, as you can see, I can go on and on.
I have ruminated a "Guide to Alpaca Ownership" and if you will contact me privately, I will be happy to answer any questions you might have and send you a copy of the Guide by email. I would not, I repeat, in this economy, I would not go into raising alpacas as a sole source of income. But if you are setting up for self-sufficiency and need additional income, this is a wide open area for entrepeneurs. We do sell fleece and I am always interested in ideas from fiber artists, weavers, knitters and crocheters. I love alpacas and what they have done for our lives.
In NY We Have the Sheep and Wool Festival....
and it's HUGE with many thousands of attendees - knitters, crocheters, weavers, spinners, breeders, wannabes like me, etc., etc., etc. I've gone last year and the year before and its great inspiration for those in the field to compare notes, buy anything related to wool including the animals too!
http://sheepandwool.com/ It gets bigger every year too! I don't know if there are any shows of this sort out West, but this attracts people from all over the country.
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I did a bit of research on
I did a bit of research on Alpacas as a business a while back. The business part mainly seems to be simply breeding and selling alpacas to others who want to get into the "business." There is an industry group that works together in selling the wool, but there did not seem to be much money involved in that - maybe not even worth it. Kinda seems like a fad pet/animal hobby spurred on by all the television advertisements for them.
I know some hard core Ron Paul supporters that have a huge alpa
and they do well....
If you want to get in touch with them email me ... I will see what I can do..
You can contact them and ask them all the questions you need
Do they sell wool?
Or sell offspring?
Maybe they have a website. Could you post that please?
yes...
see the post above from paulette... she is the one I know of ...
and she has a nice website.. I will look for it.
Thank you, Jdayh
I'll save you the trouble: www.alpacamine.com Visitors welcome :)
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
Aww...they're cute! :-)
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Caught in the middle?
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Cool!
We're neighbors.
Been to Yerington Dozens of times.
Was just at the Anaconda mine at Weed Heights a few months ago.
I just showed the pics to my wife. She was "awwwwing" and "oooooing".
Handsome critters. I can tell you guys really care about them
Very cool
As you know, having visited Yerington, we don't have too many neighbors,
so we two-leggers as well as the fuzzy, four-leggers all enjoy company. AND visitors who also frequent the DailyPaul = better still.
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
That's great to hear!
We'll give a call. It will be a couple of weeks. But we'd like to take a look.
Beer? Wine? Both?
And, I always bring my camera, if that's ok..
Great, we'll look forward to it
No need to bring beer, wine....our hospitality porch frig is stocked. Camera, oh yes, but they don't do autographs! Some are so friendly, you just might get a nose print on your lens.
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
We have 9 llamas, 4 of them have alpaca in their bloodlines.
We find them to be delightful, fascinating, useful, and easy keepers. They can pack elk and deer out of the mountains as well as pull carts. They eat noxious weeds around here. They keep predators away and act as protectors of our chickens and goats. The wool is softer to the touch, lighter in weight, warmer and less prone to itch than sheep's wool. I have encountered weavers over the years who buy wool outright but we have never sold any of ours. The last time I checked into it, llama wool was fetching $4/lb more than sheep's wool. The weaving I know how to do, I learned from my mom and oma but I think it's highly possible to be self-taught in this craft. I have a llama wool coat and it is one of my favorites....the wool makes beautiful pieces.
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Do you
With 9 and 4 being alpacas - do you make money from them - somehow? Or did you get 9 to keep your animals safe? Will an alpaca attack a fox? or raccoon?
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We have never made any money from them
but then we've never tried either.....researching selling the wool was as far as I got on that count. I have always thought we could make our own articles of clothing with their wool should that need arise. I have thought of them being able to haul supplies and such for us should we find ourselves needing that kind of help. My husband and a friend of his use them to pack game. It is possible they could generate income by bringing game out of the mountains here for hunters.
I have never seen one attack a predator although I did see a coyote get chased by one once. The reason we know they keep predators away is because they live in a pasture beside our chicken coop and we have lost no chickens to wild predators since they have lived there. I would answer yes to the question of whether they will attack a fox or coyote and I think a coon would be afraid to hang out within reach of them.
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I think the future will
be miniature cattle. They are less expensive to feed, great for small homesteads and could transport them easier. This is what I would get into if I had a few acres.
http://www.minicattle.com...
My next door neighbors have Dexter cattle
and they would be good, if taken care of, but these people live 240 miles away, so the cows are wild, and they can get out of the fence and cause damage all the time. They seem to grow and breed well however, as they are multiplying rapidly. I suppose if they were taken care of, they would be a great idea. Hey, if the SHTF we know where to get meat. JK (actually we have deer who we feed unwillingly with our garden and fruit trees and herbs).
I know some people that got mixed up with Alpacas
Its sort of a scam if you get them through "the network" (or something like that). It seems theres a much bigger market for starting Alpaca operations than in any alpaca products. Buffalo, on the other hand are getting popular.
Buffalo require fences that would almost keep in an elephant!
And they do not have nice disposition, are quick on their feet (in spite of their slow, lumbering appearance) so they are treacherous to work with.
We had a neighbor who had buffalo---the buffalo got out and he couldn't get them corraled again and finally had my son shoot one, as he couldn't think of anything else to do! So they butchered it, and ate it.
Well damn. Chickens are fun
..
But---Roosters can be MEAN!
And then---you chop off his head and make chicken and noodles. :-)
Yes, chickens are fun to raise, your chicken posts make me want to have a flock again.
I had 32 chickens about 3 years ago
Got out of it but with free roaming eggs at $ 4.50 per dozen - I'm getting back into it and selling eggs
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Thanks bout goats
There have been some cautions about goats milk. I heard only 2 breeds of goats have good quality goats milk. Other than for your own family farms needs, how do you make money in a goats market?
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Sell to Jamaicans the love
Sell them to Jamaicans they love goat.
You milk the nannys and sell or eat the cabritos. The only
problem is you have to protect them from the Chupacabra.
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El Chupacabra! Aye, Dios!
El Chupacabra! Aye, Dios!
From the little research I have done.
Since I plan on moving soon..To an out of the way, small farm.
I've done a little research, and my wife has done more.
We've gotten the feeling that it's not unlike a Multi-level marketing scheme.
the money is in convincing others to do the same as you. So you can then sell them, and whoever they recruit, breeding stock.
We just got a cute baby pygmy goat
that we hope to breed eventually and milk, for our little homestead. They are cheap to raise and their milk doesn't have to have a cream separator like most goat's milk, and it is high in fat for butter, cream, sour cream, cheese, etc. She is so cute. http://s302.photobucket.c...
About the alpacas, I don't know about alpacas especially, but the term you should use is spin, then weave. But in a lousy economy, I don't know if it would go over much, as alpaca's wool is more than regular sheep's wool, and most people spin and weave just for fun.
I think the Alpaca business will go the way of the
Ostrich, Emu, Llama business. (Or any other exotic breed business) Those in the business early do quite well selling breeding stock to others starting in the business--then as there is plenty of breeding stock, and no demand for the produce of the animal, the business wanes.
As a breeder, I have to disagree
Alpacas have been a stable source of economy in several countries in South America for 100s of years. In Australia, many of the sheep farmers are turning to alpacas now because of the quality of the fleece and the "green" attributes. They are very commercially viable and the fleece is extraordinary. Alpacas are no longer considered "exotic" in most states but are recognized as livestock, as they should be. As with any other livestock animal, there will always be money in improving breeding stock and even a "fiber quality," i.e. male (non breeding) will produce fleece for you. Like any business, though, one must work at it.
Alpacas - IT'S DOABLE
Sorry I don't know about alpacas,
but I'm expanding the thread by saying that goats are a wonderful option for self-sufficiency and for business.
Goat milk is much healthier than cow milk (don't know about alpaca milk), and the animals are more efficient to raise.