What's In your Fall Garden? (or do you have one?)
Just wondering if any of you avid gardeners ..(or new gardeners) have a fall garden.
If so ....what you planting? Or what have you successfully planted in the past fall gardens you may have done? (Do you plant and grow inside first ?)
PLEASE SHARE (for the benefit and inspririation of those who may not think there is much growing to be done in the fall...)
THANKS!!!
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a few things--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
garlic has been planted, and swiss chard is still growing and has been planted--
Here is a pretty good place to find seeds
I was reading an old "Country Side and Small Stock Journal", a couple weeks ago and saw an article about this kid that started his own seed company. Well now that kid is about 30 and still has the company. There are good descriptions and a lot of seeds for things you probably have never heard of.
http://rareseeds.com/
"What was taken from the boomers, it ain't there, what was taken from the X'ers it ain't there, what is being taken from their great, great, great squared grandchildren it ain't there. Some generation just has to have the guts to quit passing it on." Me
Thats where I got my 'survival package' of seeds last year!!!
They are wonderful. I love all these interesting vegetable plants with so many colors you don't see even in some food co-ops!
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Yeah, they have some nice looking varities
I have a local feed & seed that sells seeds by the ounce or by the pound for good prices. But, I found some seeds on rare seeds that I bought to store up as well. I am going to try the Black Aztec and the Country Gentleman corn this year, one at home and one behind the store.
"What was taken from the boomers, it ain't there, what was taken from the X'ers it ain't there, what is being taken from their great, great, great squared grandchildren it ain't there. Some generation just has to have the guts to quit passing it on." Me
Minnesota Indian summer right now. Very nice.
Just cleaned out all the dead plants, cut vines and some plants to stubs. Been preparing my soil for the spring in hopes that my veggie garden out back produces wonderfully this coming season. I hoed the soil then spread organic cow manure from grass pastured cows all over the flower and veggie garden.
Got the ladder out of the garage finally at the back apple tree. I am finally studying how to trim it down. Its pretty intricate. Lots to know. The deer eat a lot of my apples that fall to the ground. We agree that will be theirs.
When I plant my seedlings, I will sprinkle some of Mike Lawson's(DPer) mineral powder for additional nutrients. Cleared a large table in my studio to plant my seeds in a couple months from now. I am determined to start early this year.
Think I'll grow a couple tobacco plants along with my herbs. I'll grow some healing herbs(golden seal to spread in my woods, cone flowers,nettle, mullein).
My husband and I have been filling the steep ravine on the side of our house for 2 years now. We are almost done. Pretty soon we'll have access from the front yard to the back so we can drive the tractor up this pathway. Boy I have been wanting this done for over 10 years now and its almost there. Wheel barrel by wheel barrow!! I have already planted white bridlepath Spirea bushes so I can have a 15 - 20ft high 'fence' with our neighbors : ). I plan to continue planting these bushes all along the edge of the property (200ft) so we can have peace with those folks already! We have wild cannabis growing in our fields out in the nature preserve oh so innocently. The birds flock to my yard where I have so much for them. My home is a sanctuary for humans and animals. Several beautiful areas for quiet contemplation.
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I finally have something to contribute to this thread
I have heard that carpet padding serves as a weed blocker that you can likely get for free from your local carpet store vs spending a bunch of money for the real thing. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
carpet padding???
ok..so you what ..plant the garden... then pad the area around each plant with it??
That would make it look like a carpeted garden!! HA... (but hey if it works.. better than pulling weeds)
LOL No need for grass!
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
You kill the weeds before you plant
goofball!
I tried something similar this year. I put a layer of cardboard / newspaper down around the perimeter of the garden, then threw weeds on top of it all year. Now the chickens are running the garden area pooping on it for me, and pretty soon I will get out there and bust up the last year's straw bales and spread over it. Come spring, supposedly we will be able to punch a spade right through the cardboard.
"Lasagna gardening" is the name of the concept, with a little twist to suit what I needed.
First time here.
Peas, carrots, radishes and a few leafy greens. First time I've ever tried gardening. Basically using the square foot gardner method. So far so good, and very cool btw.
Right now..
I just have flower gardens. No veggies.
Ive dug up my caladium and lilies and am prepping the soil and replanting my bulbs in better locations for this year. I live down south and the lilies do not like direct sun for more than 5 hours. This year my house should look like something out of better homes and gardens!!
Ive made a lily garden, a shade garden, a rock/cacti garden and a butterfly/hummingbird garden. The only problem I have is with the armadillo's eating my bulbs!
I only got into flower gardening last year, but I certainly love it. I have about 100 different types of plants growing and learn something everyday.
Its rewarding and relaxing. Plus from March-July I have beautitul cut flowers in my house smelling the place up. (the ladies dig it too)
Well, I tried to start my garden this year, but....
different events derailed me on that. :( All of my plants died, except for my bell pepper plants, which are very full and are blooming. We'll have lots of bell peppers soon, hopefully!
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Bar soap
Here in Alaska, some people put stinky bar soap on sticks for moose. I assume if you put them in the holes they will not like the smell either.
fall garden
We have peas, carrots onions, a lot of different lettuces, dill, fennel, cilantro,beans,cabbage, broccoli,brussel sprouts ,peppers,basil,thyme,lots and lots of stuff for the butterflies and hummingbirds,and bees. We got a giant bowl of green beans for dinner tonite they were yummy. Good luck with your garden. My favorite thing is to check the garden first thing in the morning. I love to see how thing are growing. The last few weeks we have a lot of monarch butterflies.
sounds beautiful rapunzel
I was in Frisco where I found an old abandoned garden by the old abandoned University of Berkeley, near the SF Mint, What first caught my attention were birds going for mission figs, and then I saw two old knarley apple trees with lottle crisp sweet apples, and herbs, and flowers nasterstums, geraniums, poppies, fennel, lavander, sage, and a mountain of blooming rosemary, all overlooking Castro district and Mission, where the golden domes sit like buttons on a 3-D checkered board. I did not see a Monarch, I think it would have been too heavenly ;)) I had a giant bowl of speragus with southwest slasa and shitaki and brown rice, with Boudin Garlic Volcano sourdough
Time to put the garden to rest
And start planning for the Spring.
GOPHERS!!! Does anyone have any suggestions to get rid of them
short of using poison? I don't want to contaminate my soil for next years garden. He is happily muching on the carrots from the roots!
I'm from Oregon as well
I'm from Oregon as well :P
Now...what we did when I was a kid was a kick. We took emergency road flares which are pretty cheap. We lit them and stuck them in one of the holes and then mashed the dirt around the hole to seal it. If I remember right if you see smoke sneaking out of another connected hole/exit...you just smash that hole tight and seal it with your foot. You effectively smoke them out. They die in their holes...pretty effective and flares are not that expensive. They also don't really contaminate the soil in any bad way like poison.
Hope this helps some of you.
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I used a couple pellets of DeCon
in each hole. Within days no more gophers. The poison doesn't stay in the soil because the moles eat the pellets then go off and die from internal bleeding. Rat poison is mostly just blood thinners.
A dog
And then when the dog digs up your garden, you can start your own version of "There was an old woman who swallowed a fly..."
My good dog ran away. My digging dog stayed.
:(
Which, means the answer to the topic is the same. What is in MY fall garden? My dog.
At least she left me some broccoli.
I don't know how well this works
Gopher/mole purge
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First time I planted gopher purge was in a flower bed, which didn't stop the critters from feasting, but the gopher plants were weak and never really took.
The second time, another flower bed, they gopher plants became the problem in taking over the garden
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I've tried all kinds of things,, having pin wheels all over the yeard is neat for a few weeks, but that didn't do it.
I'm afraid when it comes to the fauna coming after your flura, raised beds are not even 100% critter proof, but it's what works best.
try using the vibrating stakes...
they have solar ones and battery powered ones.. these do work.
If your local hardware store does not have them, try buying online.
E.Oregon 4 Ron
Jucy Fruit Gum! it works on Moles to.
what? for real? how is that?
do you put it in their holes? how does it work?
You chew it and they get their feet stuck? lol
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
LOL!! Because I trust my friends on Daily Paul
I did buy some Juicy Fruit Gum, and I put it down the holes! Juicy Fruit is very strong smelling, so maybe that is why?
I wonder if we're too trusting sometimes lol (No offense henri)
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
wow... that is perhaps the funniest thing ever on this thead...
(or the whole dog is in my fall garden..not sure which)
seriously... did you chew it first ? or just put some sticks in the holes?
Please let us know if this works... the vibrating stakes work. , but you need one like every 10-15 feet .... so the gum seems like a cheaper way to go if it does the trick...
Henri-------Help!!! LOL
I just unwrapped the sticks and put them down the holes----and I will try the vibrating stakes, when I can get somewhere to buy some. My garden is small so I wouldn't need many.
I also wondered about the D-Con for gophers. I know it works on mice. Last year the gophers got all my carrots and beets in January, and the only good thing is that all their tunneling really loosened the soil for the next years crop.
Well, just don't add any poison to any grass seed unless you
want exploding gophers...supposedly they did that after Mount St. Helens erupted and had an explosive issue on their hands. lol
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
Haha! Did it work??
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
I don't know, yet,
I just did it last night. I will let you know if it works!
Three types of chives
and volunteer lettuce from the plants I let mature last year. I'll plant garlic when it gets a little colder so it will come up in the early spring. Another volunteer crop was edible weeds that I cooked and ate for several meals. I don't know their English name but in New Mexico everyone I knew called them verdelalas.
Collards, spinach, 3 kinds of onions, sweet peas
lettuce, multiplying green onions, chickens, deer, rabbit, and quail.
Bought the quail for a dollar a piece for my four year old to learn some responsibility, if nothing else we'll have a cheap meal or two.
"What was taken from the boomers, it ain't there, what was taken from the X'ers it ain't there, what is being taken from their great, great, great squared grandchildren it ain't there. Some generation just has to have the guts to quit passing it on." Me
1st year gardener here...
NE Wyoming's short season was even shorter when I didn't get anything in the ground until JUNE 23rd!!! (UGH!) Bush Beans, Zucchini, Beats, some onions, Sweet Corn, and Pumpkins did really pretty well. Cucumbers, Spaghetti Squash, Raspberries and Garlic... not so much.
Hope to do Asparagus and get an earlier start next year... no plans for the fall... no idea what to do.
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
Spinach, lettuce, green onions, and radishes
can stand some cold weather. I had spinach that lived all year under snow with no protection. It is probably too late to plant things this fall, but these can be planted early in the spring.
Carrots should do well for you.
stuff
Peas, lima beans, lentils, mustard greens, lettuce, basil, dill, and beets. All open pollinated, mostly heirloom from local native people.
Native Seed Search ftw in the Southwest.
Buckwheat
I am in zone 8. I didnt get to plant a fall garden but got some buckwheat in at the beginning of october. Hoping it will bloom and give my honey bees one last nectar source before frost hits. It is also good green manure, putting back organic matter into the garden. Next year I am going to try planting dutch clover in the garden to choke out the weeds and put nitrogen back into the soil. Has anyone else experimented with this?
buckwheat?
Can you make cereal form this >? Or is it just for the bees?
How long does it take to grow...and what climate are you in?
Also.. would the clover be best to plant in the fall/winter..then take it out and plant the garden in the spring? (does clover choke out any garden plants..or is it like a non weed plant..)
just wondering
I haven't done it, but planting a green crop
and plowing it in sounds like a good plan to me.
zone 5
peas, kohlrabi, beets, turnips, radishes--end of the pepper & bean run
planted the garlic for next season
fall is a fantastic time for the 2nd round, everything germinates faster
cooler weather for harvesting, and the weeds don't grow near as fast
I love fall gardens
AND all my seeds are heirloom organic--I save alot of seeds from my plants
the rest I get from Bakers seeds in MO
fantastic place to buy...
I start seeds here in the greenhouse right after Christmas
everything goes in the garden end of April 1st part of May
A note incase some may not know this--if you didnt plant a whole package of your seeds this year, most will be fine for up to 3 years.
Store them in the refrig.
Have no place for a garden but like hearing about others gardens
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
D4L
Large flower pot's/5gallon buckets with drainage works just fine for squash,tomatoes,leaf lettuce,potatoes,strawberrys. do you have a pattio?
No, just a north-facing window with about an 8-inch windowsill
like I said, no room. lol
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
A lot of frost
The snow is late this year!
20 F degrees in Fairbanks, Ak.
Here in N.C. zone 7 we grow
Here in N.C. zone 7 we grow spinach,cabbage,turnips,mustard greens,kale,and radish.The kale,turnip,and mustard greens live all winter.I'm having turnip and mustard greens for supper tonight.mmm...good!
Zone 5 here--
Last fall I planted spinach, green onions, radishes and lettuce in September. I covered everything but the spinach with coldframes I made using bubblewrap.
Everything lived all winter, but didn't grow much. The spinach lived uncovered under 7 inches of snow for awhile. In January I harvested carrots and tiny leaves of lettuce and a few tiny radishes.
In the spring the spinach produced well and I was still harvesting spinach through June. I let it go to seed.
The spinach seeded itself, and I now have spinach about 1 inch tall that will live through this winter!
I also have cabbage and carrots and beets and green onions in the garden. They survive frost until the ground freezes, and then they need protected.
It would help to know what growing season y'all are in.
To help us know what may or may not work in our area.
Frost free season and topography can be helpful, but not always a good indicator.
For instance, I live in a high altitude valley with mountains all around, and we have a fairly long 'growing season' which sounds good enough to raise corn and tomatoes well. Corn and tomatoes love hot summer weather, but they don't like the cool breeze every evening from the nearby mountains.
I started corn and tomato plants inside which helps a little---but especially the corn is a wasted effort.
Zone 9: Just finished picking the huckleberries
Artichokes are still growing.. tomatoes are still flowering and producing
Prepped the grounds to encourage mushrooms when the cold comes.. boletes and chantrells
Just finshed a burn pile and I have three massive bull pines (about a hundred years old) to fell, so the fall garden is fire wood this year, but once that area's swamped, I plan to plant hazelnuts as the center of my "Food forest" http://www.youtube.com/wa...