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Mandatory Vaccination Victim Found Unconscious!

7:30 CDT

Rachel, the Iowa girl who was forced to receive the deadly intranasal H1N1 vaccine at the hands of her father's nurse on Tuesday afternoon, was found unresponsive this morning.

Despite repeated attempts at awakening her by shouting "Rachel, wake up! You'll be late for school!" she remained motionless. Even now her mother is trying in a vain attempt to animate her flaccid body.

As promised to the DailyPaul for the Advancement of Medical Conspiracy Theories, we will keep DP anti-vaccinators posted about any medical problems discovered over the coming days (or months or years).

Oh, there she is. I guess she made it through another night.

But she might be walking kind of funny.

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Good to know nothing bad can happen to your family

Some families are not as fortunate.
I walk in traffic a lot, never been hit. I can't get hit because I feel safe.

Give your poison to your family but don't shill around for

Vaccines please...

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

LOL!

I'm laughing, because Rachel reminds me of ME. When it was time for me to wake up for school in the morning. Actually, I'm still like that. Maybe it was the childhood vaccines.

I'm not really that fond of any kind of Alarmism. I still manage to get sucked in on occasion though. Not often anymore, but I let it happen once in a while.

Personally, I think anytime that anyone gives medical advice over the internet, they should also voluntarily add a disclaimer. Something like "I am not a Doctor. This is my opinion, based on my own research." Or, I AM a Doctor..etc..etc."

Then there is this.
I think, aside from the things that some people are afraid of, the vaccines STILL provide enhanced immunity. This means that less people will get the flu. This fact is GOOD for those who don't want to take it. So WHY tell everyone? Let the others make the choice. The more that get vaccinated, the less chance there is for the un-vaccinated to get sick.
I guess I'm just a medical Darwinist, or something..

I hope your daughter

suffers no ill effects from the poison. On the other hand, I think you should do a triple dose.

HAHAHAHAHAA

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

What a sick little shill you are.

Do what ever you need to do to help you sleep at night. You are still a quack who pushes toxic medicine in the name of corporate profit as opposed to actual wellness. Good thing a growing number of people are now rejecting your Big Pharma trade-manual inspired skullduggery. Now go drink a shotglass full of thimerosol then wash it back with a tasty glass of fluoride water and leave us alone.

"Sick"? "Shill"? "Quack"?

Boy, I must have really touched a nerve.
But since you don't know me I won't take any of this personally.
And, BTW, I don't like Big Pharma any more than you do.
But I like spinal meningitis even less.

And unlike the dystonic cheerleader, kids left dead, deaf, retarded, or paralyzed for life by meningitis are NOT "one-in-a-million".
At least they weren't until routine vaccination became the standard of care.
Now they are pretty rare.

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Yes, so everyone please run

Yes, so everyone please run out and get your meningitis vaccine because amongst people in various populations and/or faiths which do not vaccinate they are being decimated en masse.

"But I like spinal meningitis even less."

Fear-mongering at its finest. Why stop there? Just say, "But I like death even less."

How much money have you made

How much money have you made pushing poison to children in the name of your religion psuedo-science?

let's see...

absolutely no input for furthering freedom or liberty, but yet you keep posting this crap? You people are getting easier and easier to figure out. Must suck to have your life if this is the best thing you can do with your time.

If it isn't bad for you

Then why is it being forced on us. My mother has died from mercury poisoning in her "ultra-safe" amalgam fillings...I refuse any mercury.

You are a family doctor...yet you persist in mockery. :(

Spacehabitats, I am glad your child is not having problems from vaccines. However, others have not been so fortunate and your shameful mockery and insensitivity is appalling.

I cannot understand how a family physician justifies such behavior.

Are you maybe a tad defensive about posts that raise concerns about vaccines because of your own involvement in helping to produce vaccines?

You have expressed concern about the image of Ron Paul and about the DailyPaul being degraded. Spacehabitats, how do you think your insensitive, mocking posts reflect on either of them?

I asked you these same things months ago when you mocked vaccine victims with your juvenile Germ Theory Hoax and Brazillian Batboy/Gardasil threads that you posted in response to some serious, informational topics that were active and annoying you.

You continue to mock vaccine victims and those who grieve them.

It's time to stop.

Yes, I mock....

Not the victims of tragedies, but those who would exploit them.
If you feel you have suffered from a vaccination-related complication then I am sympathetic for your loss,
But your personal experience does NOT qualify you to make judgments about OTHER people's health care.

And yes, I DO believe that the vast majority of the anti-vaccine posts are tangential, at best, to the cause of "restoring Constitutional government" in the U.S.
And yes, I DO care about the image of Dr. Paul.
And no, I don't think I harm that image by mocking the hysterical, sensationalized, and unscientific posts that recommend ignoring the advice of personal physicians and hundreds of years of medical science.

If the shoe fits, wear it.
Otherwise, why are YOU being defensive?

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Natural Law and Natural Rights

http://jim.com/rights.htm...

"You also have the right to not appreciate my humor."

You have a warped sense of humor.

"I don't think I harm that image by mocking the hysterical, sensationalized, and unscientific posts that recommend ignoring the advice of personal physicians and hundreds of years of medical science."

I wonder how much harm would be done to your practice if your posts were placed on the front door of your office, doc.

I don't believe you are a doctor, but just in case, can you provide the location of your practice?

BTW, you have a severe case of bad karma.

If I had to guess

I would look in ummm...it's coming.....Sunnyvale, Ca ummmm 60283....21077524?? can't quite make it out :) Dentist/doctor??

Okay, John, I believe you are a doctor and I don't need

the location of your offices. Consider yourself lucky I am not a spiteful person. Can't say that about everybody here. If you were my doctor, and I read your insensitive posts, you would be fired. BTW, did you know all your profiles state you are female? Good luck sir/madame, hope your windows remain clean.

Now say that while looking in the mirror...

"But personal experience does NOT qualify you to make judgments about OTHER people's health care."

How funny....you express these words yet keep making post and judgments based on your personal experience.....what gives? Your personal experience warrants post after post of ignorance...just attempting to start issues, but yet you cry foul if anyone speaks differently than you?

Same trait as all the other divisive people who post for no other reason than to try and cause issues. Absolutely no use to this movement given the lack of respect for others. Say hello to Bugman in your camp for me will ya.

BTW..my wife who is also a Dr. and 90% of Dr.'s at her facility are refusing to give themselves or their families this vaccine. But I guess you are somehow superior to them aren't you....LOL

So in other words, for me to follow the advice of my physician as you suggest..means I won't be taking this vaccine, nor will my children. Thanks for the advice.

At least you're talking to a doctor...

And I am NOT stating that anyone is wrong for choosing not to be vaccinated.

But they ARE wrong to focus on isolated and "one-in-a-million" anecdotes as the basis for making medical decisions or as a technique for influencing public policy.

Feel free to ask your doctor spouse, or any of her colleagues, about that last statement.

Go ahead, I'll check back later to hear her response.

In the meantime, I DO consider the type of posts I am satirizing to be fair game.
It is that kind of shameless, hysterical fear-mongering (NOT the personal decisions of people with legitimate concerns) that I find unworthy of Ron Paul's image.

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Natural Law and Natural Rights

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Well, You know what?

Well, You know what? Everybody has to decide that for himself.
I would not take it.
Also the Pharma Industry usually warns people of side effects (like death), the rest is up to You.
But when it comes to mandatory I think the fun is over.
And therfore it's not funny.

Dr. Paul didn't ask You to defend him.

If You post silly things stand up for it and don't hide behind "I am worried about Dr. Pauls reputation."
Bull.

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What goes around...

comes around. Like attracts like.

Grow

up!

Attention Moderators!

If this is a true story (about the Iowa girl) then the OP's posting is just in bad taste and there is nothing that can or should be done here as the OP does have a right to post opinion, even though the tact was atrocious.

However, if the story is not true, then I can only assume the OP made up this story, so that he had a vehicle for his personal opinion about the postings of others here at the DP, and to attempt to make a mockery of the point of view of others.

Perhaps there should be a policy on the DP for warnings, and possible banning for those that post false stories without some form of disclaimer. Satire is one thing, but to make a post like this without any disclaimer (stating that the post was made as satire) has no business being on an informational site such as the DP.

Now, I might not have thought this through fully, and I might receive some criticism for my statements against the OP's right to post such a tasteless post without a disclaimer, but there is a better way to argue, debate, or discuss one's point of view rather than hoping one sees another's sense of humor.

Additionally, I also assume there is no such thing as the Daily Paul for the Advancement of Medical Conspiracy Theories, so I would implore the original poster to stop with what he believes to be humor. If anything, it only makes those here laugh at you (OPer). If you (OPer) really want to get your point across, try using fact and legitimate (true) stories for your arguments.

Sometimes I wish there was a way to set "ignore" on, so that postings by posters I never wish to read could be filtered out when I come to the DP.

Sorry, I just needed to vent.

Dear "imheretoo",

You have a right to disagree with my viewpoints.
You also have the right to not appreciate my humor.
You are also completely free to laugh AT and not WITH me.

Personally, I find it more than a little disgusting when TV "news" shows exploit the sad victims of medical tragedies to boost their ratings.
Did you ever stop to think that I am also satirizing THEM.

Or are the MSM only suspect when they disagree with YOU?

I do find it interesting, however, that when I ask for people to VOLUNTARILY reconsider the wisdom of posting ridiculous conspiracy theories and/or religion-bating posts I am accused of advocating censorship.

But when I post something that is clearly satirical and completely inoffensive to anyone personally I hear cries for "Moderator!"

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An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.

Natural Law and Natural Rights

http://jim.com/rights.htm...

This is an offensive post

1. To anyone with base level sensibility.

2. Most especially, to anyone who has ever had a loved one injured by vaccination.

To claim this hasn't taken place would be beyond ridiculous. Your poking fun at this issue in a serious forum is an indication of your character, or lack thereof, and also points to the lack of respectable position you have in the debate.

It is easy to see who is playing the role of fool.
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"Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall be called the children of God." - Matthew 5:9

My liberty-minded home base of thought:

www.ponderthis.net

Doctor claims chanting alchemist's "spell" on the child . . .

cured her.
Yes, Dr. Space prescribes the chant "Wake up! You'll be late for school!" is the ancient alchemist chant that cures the affects of the vaccines.
*l*
How do you take your asperatime doc, with or without cloudy water?

Here are just a handful of

Here are just a handful of vaccine "problems" published this year:

Cell Biology and Toxicology April 9, 2009 [Epub Ahead of Print] -- Exerpt: “In conclusion, MT-1 and MT-3 mRNAs but not MT-2 mRNA are easily expressed in the cerebellum rather than in the cerebrum by the injection of low-dose thimerosal. It is thought that the cerebellum is a sensitive organ against thimerosal.

As a result of the present findings, in combination with the brain pathology observed in patients diagnosed with autism, the present study helps to support the possible biological plausibility for how low-dose exposure to mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines may be associated with autism.”

Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry June 4, 2009; 91(4): 735-749 – Study found that thimerosal-induced cellular damage caused concentration- and time-dependent mitochondrial damage, reduced oxidative-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and cell death.

Thimerosal at low concentrations induced significant cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells. Thimerosal was found to be significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined.

Annals of Epidemiology September 2009: 19(9);659 -- Male infants who received thimerosal-containing hepatitis-B vaccinations had a three-fold risk of developing autism.

Brain Research September 9, 2009 [Epub Ahead of Print] -- Study concluded that injecting thimerosal into suckling infant rats, and adult rats, impairs sensitivity to pain, apparently due to activation the endogenous opioid system.

Toxicology & Environmental Chemistry September-October 2008: 90(5);997-1008 -- Male infants who received thimerosal-containing hepatitis-B vaccinations were nine times as likely to be receiving special education services.

Here are the links in order:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...

http://www.informaworld.c...

http://www.annalsofepidem...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...

http://fourteenstudies.or...

Do some research and you might not sound so... foolish.

Dear "almfree",

Thank you for the links.
I hope you did not think that I would equate your kind of comment with the kind of posts I am satirizing.

Obviously you have done your homework and you have some valid studies to back your opinions.

However, if you would have read my posts carefully you would have noticed that I have NEVER said that vaccinations (or thimerosal specifically) could not be increasing the incidence of autism.

But even an indisputable causal link between autism and vaccination would not justify the relentless flood of alarmists posts I see on the DP.

Many have nothing to do with autism.
Most of them are based on anecdotal and often distorted "news" stories.
And even the best have precious little to do with Ron Paul or "restoring Constitutional government".
Even the ones that DO (like the posts concerning forced vaccination programs) have mostly turned out to be fear-mongering hype.

Remember the posts about how They were going to make us all line up and get our swine flu shots at the point of a gun?
Remember how the swine flu vaccine was a "weaponized" strain of influenza designed for genocide on a mass scale?

If this is a plot by the collectivists then it is the stupidest most inept conspiracy in recorded history.
What kind of a genocide program makes people wait for weeks if not months to get their shots?

I know none of this has to do with your comment, except to contrast it with what I AM satirizing.
But thanks anyway.

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An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.

Natural Law and Natural Rights

http://jim.com/rights.htm...

But your "satirizing" is not funny.

It is tasteless and insensitive and shows lack of compassion and caring toward vaccine victims and their loved ones and also toward people who are concerned about the risks of vaccines...whether you intend them as the targets or not.

If you have a heart, and if you are really a physician, please strive for something better.

What kind of harvest do you expect to reap from tasteless satire and sarcasm?

Doc, you do not have to sow these kinds of seeds.

You remind me

of that Bud Light commercial from a few years back where the team celebrated like they won the championship after the first out of the game.

This is your children's long run neurological health here and you're acting in this childish manner?!

Come on now!

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"Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall be called the children of God." - Matthew 5:9

My liberty-minded home base of thought:

www.ponderthis.net

Space you are a fool

http://www.youtube.com/wa... If the shot only kills 3 neurons in your child which 3 would you want to kill. Doctor my ass.

You know space

you have been here a long time and I never took you to be the type of person to behave like this. We have dealt with lots of issues and everyone pretty much agrees to live and let live. Could your animosity be that your wife does not want the vaccine and you are angry with her. Could it be she would not put up with your snide behavior so you bring it here? I am happy that your child has not had a reaction and I hope all goes well but your sense of humor stinks. Maybe, you are under a lot of stress.

Or perhaps all these people who don't want his vaccine

means less money in the bank?

I am still fuming about this post.

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to just remove this thread altogether. It's a total disgrace.

Somehow hope you show more compassion with your patients, or do you doctor robots?

Yep

what she said.

I am not one for profane language

but I got only one word for you: ASSHOLE.

You are such a heartless

You are such a heartless asshole. Go back under the rock from which you came.

www.retakecongress.com

www.RJHarrismoneybomb.com

Acutally, from what I've gathered,

he's a doctor.

And doctors are the prime delivery agents for vaccines.
And they make their money doing it.

Get it?

I don't find this funny at all

After begging my daughter to not vaccinate her baby, at least not so young, and she went ahead and did, only to watch her scream for 24 hours and have at least 5 seizures, before bringing her to the emergency room, only to be told to bring her to the children's hospital. She was told by the doctors there to NEVER immunize her again. Your post is in extremely poor taste, to this gramma thinking about her precious grandchild who was wondering if her granddaughter would be alive, or brain damaged.