.UPDATE---My 7 year old is taking the swine flu ride, wife has it too, I am hanging strong so far.
His fever is at 104. He is hanging tough though. I have not contacted it yet. I am pounding the vitamin D3 now. How much Vitamin D3 should he be taking? He weighs 60 pounds. Hope the D3 can ease the length of time he has it, or am I too late?
UPDATE.....
Been on the D3 for 4 days, kissing my son goodnight everyday, even slept next to him last night, still no signs of me getting any sickness. D3 seems to be a champ for me so far. Thanks to all on here who recommended it, you saved me some pain and suffering. Tylenol has kept his temp at bay, don't worry I won't let my kid die. If this swine flu killed him, I would be firing the shot heard around the world, believe me. It would be game on, and I would be ready to call it a day. We are all doing ok. We have kept my son at home, and we are making him take it easy, no rough housing or running around for him until his fever is gone. We are going strong. Still have yet to catch it myself.
Thanks for the update
Some viruses take up to three weeks to catch. Please keep us in the loop.
We all hope that he gets well soon...
our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Remember too
that a fever is the body's way of fighting the virus - it is not a bad thing and it is best to leave it alone unless it gets dangerously high and/or the child is terribly uncomfortable. Agree 100% about the D-3. 30 minutes of sunshine (not through a window but direct) is also good.
Here's an interesting read: http://www.unhinderedlivi...
Suffice it to say that the best way to help your child get better is:
A. Not give fever reducing drugs
B. Increase the child's intake of foods high in Omega-6 and Omega-3 fatty acids. These foods include:
Salmon, Mackerel, Herring, Sardines, Trout (I know, but try a supplement if they won't eat it!)
Flax oil, walnut oil, soybean oil, corn oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil, sesame oil, evening primrose oil,
borage oil, pumpkin, eggs, RAW cows milk, RAW unsalted butter, and Mother's milk.
C. Make sure your child is getting enough A, B6, C, zinc, folic acid, copper, magnesium.
D. A daily dose of electrically generated colloidal silver should kill any pathogenic microorganisms.
If your child is uncomfortable because of the elevated temperature, help reduce discomfort by:
A. Bathing the child in tepid water, with a few drops of essential oil of spearmint.
B. Make sure the child is getting enough fluids. Push pure, filtered water, cool peppermint or spearmint tea,
and fresh juices. By fresh, I mean freshly juiced within the last 20 minutes and immediately consumed.
C. A good fresh juice recipe for cleansing the system by invoking an alkaline reaction:
4 large or 6 medium size grapefruit, juiced
2 large or 3 medium size lemons, juiced
Enough oranges juiced, to make two quarts juice altogether.
Add two quarts of pure water. This will make a one-gallon juice mixture. (5)
Let the fever run its course. Fever is your friend. No need for medical intervention unless:
Your child seems suddenly to be extremely weak
Your child loses consciousness and cannot be awakened
Your child's voice abruptly changes
Your child complains of neck stiffness
Your child has difficulty breathing (4)
Hemp oil
1 Tablespoon
7g Omega 6 LA
2.5g Omega 3 ALA
2g Omega 9
.5g Omega 6 GLA
.25g Omega 3 SDA
I'm wondering if these expectorants are all they
are cracked up to be. I'm recovered mostly, but I took an expectorant last night and ended up coughing up water for a long time.
Thank you to all who have prayed, etc. for my family
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The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
I have been on the vitamin D ride and still no sign of swine flu, kissed my son goodnight everyday, and slept on the floor with him last night. No swine flu, I would say we have a winner with vitamin D3, don't forget the D3, that seems to be the type of Vitamin D that works. Thanks to all who promoted D3 on this site, seems to be working!!!!
Cant give you much advice tog
except to say your a very valuable member of our community and will all be praying for you and your family.
My brother just got through this recently.
He laid low, had a 103-104 temp for a day and a half, drank gatorade, took tylenol, he was back on his feet in 2 days.
Eat chicken noodle soup; get some sunlight, take vitamin C, zinc. Hopefully you have someone there to help you. Otherwise he would have just kept running a high temp for several days without his wife's help.
I've been very fortunate my kids haven't had it yet. I'm resisting vaccination as they are young and I don't trust the damned drug companies after what i've read about Baxter pharma.
However, if they get this and run a high temp for 12 hours they are going to the doctor for conventional treatment.
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frozen (organic) fruit pops
and vitamin C and and D and zinc....that's what pulled us through a serious flu at our house back when the SWINE FLU was all over the news earlier this year. But it was primarily the frozen fruit pops. Just stay hydrated. It finally goes away....
Tog, Dr. Mercola has a
Tog, Dr. Mercola has a guideline for D3 in kids. Go to his site and search for it if you feel so inclined. You might also want to consider colloidal silver of course.
I am curious, based on what criteria were your wife and child diagosed w/ swine flu?
Relax, fever is GOOD
Why do you think the body has created the fever? So you could buy drugs and reduce it? What a scam. Monitor the temp and make sure you are re-hydrating yourself and family. If the child becomes lethargic, incoherent, etc, seek emergency care. Here is a secret for everybody, use an item like this to fuel the body, http://www.trisports.com/...
*Don't go cheap on the mixture. Gatorade is full of sugar, etc. Not good.
Endurox is another good brand.
http://www.trisports.com/...
Stay hydrated. This will go a long, long way when battling the flu.
Henry
You are never alone with a schizophrenic
The popular myth that 105° fever will cause brain damage
Despite the popular myth, promoted by companies selling anti-pyretics, brain damage from a fever will not occur unless the fever is over 107.6 degrees F (42C) for an extended period of time. http://www.drgreene.com/2...
This does not apply to adults
If an adult's fever gets that high, who knows what core temperature for the head that means.
Thank you for providing the medical
facts. There has been a little too much hysteria about fever in the thread below.
Not all people have a high tolerance to fever
I would think as soon as a tempurature is noticed, persperation, flushes, steps below would be taken to reduce the fever.
I would think that by the time a fever had climbed to 104, the remedial remedies were NOT working and professional help is needed.
I saw 60 comments offering advice and I thought... IF IT WAS MY SON, and I recorded 104 degree tempurature, I would not be on the computer debating what to do.
I apologize for the "hysteria". I do not take back the caps. I mean that.
I hope all is well for tog and his family.
fever is good,
http://articles.mercola.c...
a lot of people are scared of fever, and rightfully so, they've heard their whole life that a fever will cause brain damage...I believe this is propaganda as usual. The body reacts to infection with heat. For every 1 degree the body temp rises, the white blood cell count doubles.
Usually the body will govern a fever to around 104 max...I personally would use fever reducers above 106.
Negligent parents allow child to die
I talked with you at the Granny gathering in DC up near the stage and flower bed behind the stage. I thought you were smarter then this?
http://current.com/items/...
I would not take a chance with my loved ones, though that is your choice. I hope they feel better, as soon as possible.
get real
these two stories are totally different. In the linked article, a daughter with Type 1 diabetes died because her parents relied completely on faith to heal her. Tog's son has the flu and a fever. Geez. And he's doing what is needed. Not sure how you think he is "taking a chance"?
Get that temp down!!!
I would have him in a cool bath (NOT cold) and see if that does it, but if you cannot get that down a degree or two at least, granger is right. I HATE going to doctors, but they have been taught some useful things.
Motrin or tylenol. 105
Motrin or tylenol. 105 degrees is a seizure. Please respond.
GO TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM NOW
Brain damage is already taking place in your son with a temperature of 104.
GET HELP FOR YOUR SON, wife and yourself.
EMERGENCY ROOM NOW
Bump - This needs attention.
Bump - This needs attention.
For maintenance and
For maintenance and protection during flu season, here are the recommended dosages of D3...
Adult (and children >100lbs) maintenance ............ 10,000 IU daily.
Children's maintenance: <100lbs........................... 5,000 IU daily.
At the first symptoms of a cold or flu 1,000IU/ lb. daily for 7 days.
Examples:
50 lb ................................................................................... 50,000IU daily.
100 lb daily ....................................................................... 100,000IU daily.
150 lb daily........................................................................ 150,000IU daily.
200 lb daily....................................................................... 200,000 IU daily.
Also Sodium Ascorbate.. you need to check your bowel tolerance, but it is probably anywhere up to 10,000MG of C daily.
When you get sick your bowel tolerance increases... you should take the Sodium Ascorbate every hour until you reach your bowel tolerance, then drop back a bitt and keep your dosage at that level until you are better.
http://homefirst.com/info...
tog2476. I found taking the liquid vitamins have worked much
better. They seem to absorb better into my body. Take good care of everyone. Let them rest as much as possible and keep hydrated. Hydration is the most important thing. If they can't keep fluid down then go and get some fruit popsicle.
Be strong.
For Freedom!
Vitamnin C !! Vitamin D
Vitamnin C !!
Vitamin D !!
Veggie soup !!
Magnesium Chloride !!
Colloidal Silver !! <<<< http://www.purestcolloids...
And see a Doc but NO vaccine !
That's all I can think about.
I remember running very high
I remember running very high fevers when I was a kid, the Dr. said fevers like that would kill an adult. How do you know its swine flu? I"M NO DOCTOR but I would add a 1/4 teaspoon of colloidal silver (500ppm) in 8 ounces of water every 6 hours. I would have a doctor look at him to make sure what you're dealing with.
Umm. Give him somethin to knock it down and go to a doc...
don't let the lil fellah's brain boil.
Vitamin D-3
Take 5,000mg per day. For the child, the best thing is direct exposure to sunlight - like a sunbath. If it's too cold where you are, then I would say no more than 1,000mg for the little one.
Check the web. Google Vitamin D-3 for children.
For the record zenpiper
For the record zenpiper means IUs, not mgs.
Good Lord.
Why are you taking advice from these people? They can't even agree on their "treatments"! 104 can kill a kid. Get to the emergency room!
Well, I'm not against conventional medicine
because it is my job to make vaccine but I'm open to alternative medicine. WebMD is a good place to look for info from conventional medicine.
http://children.webmd.com...
I'm in agreement here
Everyone is well-meaning with their ideas.
But 104 seems pretty damn high to me. Anything higher, especially on a kid can be pretty dangerous.
I am NOT a doctor. I am only offering my opinion.
garlic, Resveratrol, tannin, steam
Garlic only release allicin when it is well crushed and let sit for at least 10 minute. Then find a way to make it taste reasonable and swallow it. Your digestive system will break down resveratrol if you swallow a pill. Instead break the capsule and mix with some liquid. Keep it in your mouth and let it absorb to the mouth. I'm not sure what food is high in tannin, but I can tasted it in cranberry juice and green tea. Finally breath in some steam a few time a day. You body heat up to kill virus, but your respiratory system are still cool enough for virus to survive. When steam condense, a lot of energy is release to kill your virus.
Resveratrol and other nutrients, quite cheap at:
http://www.beyond-a-centu...
Most of their supplements are available as bulk (powder). Mix in a blender with water or juice.
Green juices are also quite good. You can get powdered blue-green algae or chlorella. Nutritious as well as detoxifying.
Make a big pot of homemade from scratch veggie soup!
I always use a huge amount of onions and saute them until candied then pop in every veggie I have, copious amounts of garlic, curry, cumin, herbs, tomato sauce, etc. Then, I get a a tincture bottle of echinacea and one of cayenne and I add this to kombucha that I get at the health food store. WoW!! Does this take care of stuff fast! Anyway, the best advice after nursing my family through 20 years of ills. Regarding dosage - here's a weblink, you can check out others:
http://www.nutraingredien...
hey tog posted this for your
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Homemade cough syrup
For coughs and congestion
1 tablespoon hot water
1 tablespoon honey
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon vinegar
1 tablespoon ground ginger
1 tablespoon ground red cayenne pepper
Mix honey and hot water first to help dissolve honey then add the rest. Mix well.
Take 1 tablespoon full and do not drink anything for 15 min after. Will break up congestion and help with coughing. Take as needed.
It is hot, but as a kid whenever I was sick I would ask my mom to make it because it worked. I still make it today when I get sick.
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That much cayenne pepper
sounds scary, but I saved the recipe.
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper *sizzle*
Oh man, if the fever doesn't kill the virus, maybe the flames from that cayenne pepper will. Lol
That kid will have smoke comin' out of his ears.
Seriously though, I hope everyone is well soon.
Yea, that sounds like an excellent sympton repression!
But other than end your cough, did it do anything to cure your flu?
If nature gives you a cough to expectorate accumulated phlegm, and you suppress the cough, you might stop coughing but isn't this fighting your natural response to disease.
It helps to get rid of the phlegm
It helps break it up. The coughing hurts less and breathing becomes easier. The coughing decreases because phlegm is getting out. The child will feel better. The body will take care of the flu. Vitamins and the like can help provide the body with what it needs to fight.
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sharpsteve...
You are 100 percent correct...Breaking up that phlegm is one of the best things you can do, it helps to get that garbage out of your lungs, and helps to stop infection of the lungs. But who I am to tell you all this, I just lived through it, and I am 100 percent within 3 weeks, and yes I was very healthy prior.
Give him plenty of Tylenol, and keep him well hydrated...
Toast, and broth helps. Also, 7-up. If he gets to a point that he is having issues breathing take him to the doc, he may need antibotics for any lung infections that may occur, do not let that part go very long at all. Once it settles in the lungs, it can be very dangerous, I am speaking from experience, my family, and I have all had it. My prayers are with you, and your family. This virus is no different than any other seasonal flu, but it seems to last a little longer, and can be very hard on the lungs, so take care with that, and do not hestiate to take your little to the doctors, no matter the cost. I personally will be willing to help you foot the bill for antibiotics okay....
Tylenol isn't good. Buffered aspirin is better for fever.
7-Up tastes good, but the sugar in it can depress the immune system. You and your family need to avoid any sugar. Very important. Honey is OK, and most fruits are also. But processed orange juice (Tropicana, for instance) has a very high sugar content and will cause the person's blood sugar to spike high.
Aspirin
I was always told it causes Reye's syndrome.
Tylenol tricks your body
Tylenol does not help it just artificially relieves the symtoms. Hey just like the Federal Reserve.
wrong advice - no tylenol - no asprin - no antipyretics
read a few posts below on this. There are people more educated on this.
I am telling you all...
what helped me, if it does not help you, sorry for your bad luck. I have been healthy all my life pretty much. I am physically fit, I am and ex-boxer, and yes female, I know what my body needs. It needs water, protein, grains, vegtables, and plenty of exercise. I have high blood pressure (hereditary by the way) but I have managed to keep that under control with diet, and exercise. Henry is wrong in saying that hydration, broth, tylenol, and possibly antibotics cannot help. Some people cannot handle certain things, like lung infections, I say go to your doctor, and get help. Getting the proper oxygen to your lungs is one of the most important things our bodies need, if we don't, it effects our breathing, our brain, and our muscles. I believe God gave us the know how to fix things, and holistic ways are not the only answer, I believe God gave man the knowledge, and yes antibotics are one of them when used as necessary. I have raised 4 children, with the exception of one that is still a teenager, the rest are all of legal age. Medically, emotionally, spiritually, and physically speaking I feel I have done a very good job. They are all healthy, and awake in knowing what is going on. We as a family, or as individuals have ever had the flu, so this was a big thing for us, we have always been healthy, and that was due to good diets, healthy food, and exercise. What say you Henry???
One correction, your body
One correction,
your body does NOT need grains!!!!!!!!
I cant express this enough, grains CAUSE high blood pressure.
Humans are NOT designed to eat grains, this is why they have to be 'processed' before we can eat them.
The rule of thumb is, 'if you cant pick it and eat it, then its not good for you'
common foods thought to be good, that are not good for you:
corn
potatoes
wheat
oats
barely
rye
try gluten/wheat free for 1 month, and check your blood pressure.
it will also help with weight, skin, dandruff, bloating, tiredness, irritability etc.
good luck