Unhealthy time change
Yet another thing for which to thank gov't interference...
MCT News Service | October 28, 2009
Although daylight-saving time was sold politically as an energy-conservation measure, it does no such thing. Studies conducted in Indiana prior to 2006, when that state operated under three different time regimes, show either no difference in energy consumption or a small increase in power usage during the months after clocks were moved one hour ahead.
The annual ritual of springing forward and falling back thus possibly produces no energy savings and may be counterproductive. It also requires those who live in places where daylight-saving time is observed to waste time twice a year adjusting their clocks and watches.
Yet the costs of switching between daylight-saving and standard time go far beyond the hassles of "losing" an hour in the springtime and "gaining" it back in the fall.
I am not a doctor and I do not play one on TV, but the medical profession as Dr. Osvaldo Bustos of George Washington University's School of Medicine pointed out to me recently has known for years that shifting time forward or backward has negative, and possibly deadly, health consequences.
A Swedish study published in The New England Journal of Medicine on Oct. 30, 2008, reports increases in the incidence of myocardial infarction (heart attack) after the beginning of daylight-saving time and the subsequent return to standard time. Depending on whether the shift occurred in the fall or spring, men and women were found to vary in the extent to which their heart attack risks were increased, but the study's authors concluded from the clinical evidence that time change triggered more myocardial infarctions in the two groups overall than they would have suffered otherwise.
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I live in Arizona. We don't
I live in Arizona. We don't practice daylight savings time here. Guess I'll live forever!!!!!!
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Thank you thank you for this!!!!
I have always been skeptical and suspicious about this unnatural control of our sense of 'time'.
I will look into this. This is yet another one of many weird twilight zone-like experiments they have done to us without question. Just who are 'these' people anyway?
http://therootsofchange.c...
I don't have a problem with DST
But my reasons are selfish.
Nearly every morning I'm first in line at my local landfill to dump a load of roofing from the day before. The landfill opens at 7 am. For about a month it's completely dark when I'm trying to navigate through the maze of construction debris, tires for my truck are expensive.
I make it a point, being in the residential roofing business, to begin work at some reasonable time as to not annoy the people in the neighborhood. That's generally 8 am. In the summer, without the time change, the sun would rise at 4 am and the heat would begin to build. The hour delay in the sunrise helps me out tremendously in the summer. In addition, I have an extra hour of daylight after work to take care of household chores.
I like your reasoning
I can see where you're coming from, but just thought I'd point something out about the seasons. Daylight savings time does not create any extra daylight, nor does it create more available working time during the daylight hours.
For that, you can thank the tilt of the Earth's axis combined with your presence in the northern hemisphere.
Yes huck
I understand all that. It just makes my life easier by shifting the schedule by an hour...that's all.
As a programmer who did factory energy management software
I can tell you that daylight savings time plays HELL with the complexity of scheduling.
I heard the railroads deal with it as follows:
- In the fall all the trains stop for an hour: Big diesels burn fuel for an hour to keep the engine running but go nowhere.
- In the spring the trains are suddenly an hour late and make up the time as the opportunity presents itself. This includes running at higher speeds - fighting wind resistance that goes up with the CUBE of the speed.
Yeah, great way to save energy. Not!
I work on the railroad
I'm going to ask around to see if this is true. It's interesting!
I suspect that it's not true with coal trains supplying power plants because they just go and go and go. But maybe it's true with passenger rail? I'll ask around.
Daylight savings is kind of pain in the ass for shift workers, though. Fall behind? Great, my 12 hour shift just became a 13 hour shift. Depending if I'm on the day crew or the night crew. Or, my 12 hour break just became an 11 hour break, etc.
Nowhere in article 1, section 8 of our Constitution does it
For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E. Thank God for bugs, they're company for people in solitary confinement.
authorize Congress to change the time. It's time to look at the Constitution. They can put batteries in a clock/ plug it in to get it to move, but that's the extent of it.
And the public schools don't
And the public schools don't TEACH the law the kids are supposed to obey - or the language of it - either.
Huh?
What ARE you talking about? Y'all change your CLOCKS twice a year?
Here in Arizona we don't tolerate that kind of nonsense.
Damn straight...
I've lived in AZ long enough to forget about daylight savings...around here it's just a nasty joke the rest of you play on each other. And anyway, who can really change time?
Assert Your Authority
obedience conditioning? is
obedience conditioning?
is there already a term for this? ever notice how you can't go 50 feet down a popular road with out multiple signs telling you what to do, how we are guided through life and choices via various forms of media, and we slide into a rut of submission and compliance by repeating silly pointless rituals like daylight savings time
maybe its just me, but I think about that alot...
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Only a white man, said the Native American, would think that you cut off the bottom piece of blanket, sew it to the top and have more blanket....
Duh....
I have not observed Daylight
I have not observed Daylight Saving Time for over five years now. I simple refuse to participate in something so idiotic. While the sheep around me jump through the hoops I make a simple adjustment in my head during that part of the year they are all in an obedient trance. When I make an appointment I ask them, "your time or my time?" After this weekend I'll lose that opportunity to educate people on that subject.
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I love it. From now on, I
I love it. From now on, I shall do likewise.
Daylight Nuisance Time
Is what we call it.
Daylight Slavings Time
Is what my brother accurately tagged it, as our step-dad used the extended pm daylight to extract more labor from his indentured teenagers.
Since so few of us are in the cow-milking trade (and cattle don't grok metric time anyway), any tenuous rationale for the semiannual goofiness has long since disappeared.
As in money and matter, when it comes to time, we should pick a uniform system of measurement and stick to it.
The dairy where I worked
The dairy where I worked kept milking time at the same interval regardless of what some government mandated clock said. In fact the cows wouldn't even show up at the barn at "milking time" if we tried to foist human stupidity on the humble creatures. Nope, dairies run on cow time all the time. Mess with their schedule and you will see production drop during the most important time of the year (spring time), never to be recouped. Although the nature of our solar system means that summertime allows a farmer to work later in the evening, it is foolish to think that shifting the scale upon which he measures the passage of time will let him go to bed with more time for rest before the morning comes. Government bureaucrats are so far removed from reality that it is impossible for them to realize how truly ignorant their proclamations are.
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here, here!
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(Putting on my spelling nazi armband ...)
Don't you mean "Hear, hear!"? As in "Hear what he says, it makes sense and I agree with it!" doubled for emphasis?
(Spelling may not really be important to state a message clearly. But using non-standard spelling {including the selection of the "wrong" homonym} lowers some readers' perception of your expertise and thus your ability to persuade them. Unfortunately, those indoctrinated by the "Standard English" movement's defamation of people from regions other than East Coast are some of the people we need to convince. B-( )
I usually spell purty good
I thought of that, too, when I wrote it. I'm like, is it spelled "here, here" or is it spelled "hear, hear"?
But then I realized that I've been out of grade school now for 30 years or more, and I really don't give a fuck.
Ah...the cantankerous pleasures of age.
Compromise~ Hear! Here!
As in Hear it Here! ;- )
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WHY End Day Light Saving Time ?
http://www.standardtime.c...
If nothing else
It is certainly an unneccesary hassle.
Get rid of it. It has annoyed me for years.
We really shouldn't get too excited about this ...
since time does not truly exist except as a concept to quantify change. Otherwise, clocks are just a human convention. The winter doldrums that we experience have to do with the fact that there is less sunlight when the Earth is tilted on its axis rather than what month we ascribe to this phenomenon. Moving the hour hand forward or backward does not change the total amount of sunlight at given coordinates during one rotation of the globe. The circadian rhythms of all of nature are in tune to sunlight and the varying weather associated with the Earth's position in relation to the Sun. The lower forms of life do not check their watches to find out when it's time to hibernate and the trees do not look at the calendar before dropping their leaves. Simillarly, that the Sun is shining in Tokyo and it is dark in New York has to do with where one is rather than what 'time' it is. Time, as we traditionally use the term, is just a human contrivance for exercising control. As libertarians, we profess to be freedom lovers and live our lives as we please within the bounds of basic civility. Why then would we willingly allow ourselves to chain our minds to the arbitrary sounds of anyone else's clock much less the governments? As true libertarians, it seems we would set our watches (if we choose to wear one at all) to whatever 'time' we wanted and live life as it presented itself to our senses instead of trying to coordinate our actions with higher human authority on such an intimate and pervasive basis. Realizing that most folks even here at the Daily Paul probably do not share my rather anarchic view of time, I would like to at least comment that the dictate to establish and dictate movement back and forth between standard time and daylight savings time does not seem Constitutionally-minded; weights, measures and commerce aside.
time travel, nature of time
Fritz,
We had a lively discussion about time on the DP recently. And you sound like someone who may agree with my position that time is not even real.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Does time act upon a clock, does a clock act upon time? No and no. A clock is real, but time is just a concept...just an idea.
Time can be marked, but it cannot be measured.
Thanks huckleberry ...
for directing me back to that thread. I enjoyed reading your posts and it does seem we are like-minded on the subject. And here all along, I thought I was the only oddball. Lol
Well said
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