Beck reaches more than 3 million with 20 minute monologue on inflation...

Posted October 29th, 2009 by shaq

...on yesterday's show, and he got it mostly right. Sure, it was not exactly an in-depth discussion of Austrian Business Cycle theory, but it was still good.

Update: You can skip to this part 2 for the main discussion on monetary policy:

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The Beck Show is hijacked by Neo-Cons tonight

On November 9th, 2009 Daddy WarBucks says:

And what really sucks is the host is the producer of the Judge's Freedom Watch program.

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They have always used the truth to gain credibility

On November 9th, 2009 Boru says:

Then, once they have your trust, they point you toward fake conservatives, their books, etc.

This cycle of gaining trust and cashing in on that trust has been going on for a long time. It's a major industry.

They COUNT on you forgetting...and even if you remember, (1) they will replace you with others and (2) they know most of you will keep watching (their secondary audience).

Beck sucks!

On November 3rd, 2009 AnAppealToHeavenWash says:

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Ron Paul 2012, Join or Die!

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well since this thread just

On November 3rd, 2009 poq says:

well since this thread just popped back up again...

I thought I would share about an old roomate that just called me up today. He had always cringed whenever he saw me watching Beck back in 2006-7, thought he was a nut. As we talked the subject of the economy came up and here's what he told me:

"I always thought that Beck guy was a raving lunatic and avoided his show, but he made some real sense the other day, talking about inflation and the economy. We can't just print out all this money and expect it not to have an effect on the value of the dollar or its purchasing power."

!!!

I took the time to reaffirm this, explain the economy, the quasi usefulness and reliability of Glen Beck, but most importantly I told him about Ron Paul and how he's been saying this for years and what we can do about this issue and some videos he can watch.

As long as we can catch the people right after Beck wakes them up I think Beck can be a positive.

Ding, Ding, Ding

On November 3rd, 2009 gmason08 says:

"As long as we can catch the people right after Beck wakes them up I think Beck can be a positive."

We have a winner!!!

and quickly shift them to looking to known dependable sources for primary info, lest Mr B decides to do conveniently timed 180 degree turn or explains the problem then tells his audience that Palin, Romney or similar is the solution.

Thanks poq, great comments, great case study.

beck

On October 31st, 2009 homeschoolmom says:

I was at a meeting in NC last night, and his name comes up constantly. I try not to start anything, but i don't know where to start.These are good hearted people that really want change and yet when I mention Dr. Paul, they just stare at me blankly, It is so sad, They want to empty the congress of everyone and I let them know, Not everyone. And Beck hits the nail on the head in places, it's just that he is reiterating our Doctor and if he really woke up, he would give the credit to where it is due and we would have many other readers here at the Daily Paul. so tell me, I want to know, why does he not like our man? Ron has the answers they want, yes, I know he is a shill and all, but why espose Ron's ideas then? anyone?

ideas are cheap. talk is

On October 31st, 2009 dfwrider says:

ideas are cheap.

talk is cheap.

people are brilliant and stupid at the same time. i'm glad that some of them find glenn beck's "new talk". interesting.

let's rewind about 24 months. what was he talking about then? a lot of people sure could have used a warning that the neocons were taking them down a real ugly path.

glenn is telling them about stuff by looking in the rear view mirror. it's too late. and these people who are supposedly waking up, better thank glenn, and move on to Schiff, Paul, and the notable others.

otherwise they are fucked.

this is no joke.

i'm no longer in the mood to "warn" and "educate" people.

they're not interested in what i have to say?

fuck them.

Try to educate them on

On October 31st, 2009 gmason08 says:

engineered consent and phony conflict, i.e. fake left/right in fake opposition.
Point out that the controllers(owners) of the mass communication sources have far more in common w/ each other than they have w/ regular American citizens. This is very difficult to do and unfortunately I think your best chance for success, methodical one-on-one, is very slow and tedious. By one-on-one I mean you must try to convert one at a time rather than attempting all at once.

The BBC documentary, "Century of Self" is excellent for insight/evidence both to the elites desire and means of mass thought manipulation.

I would also ask them to do a sizzle and steak experiment. The MSM sizzle is that the D's are for X and the R's are for Y but examining the steak proves that is just false propaganda. Show them the reality of the steak, that on every issue of importance both parties have walked happily hand in hand down the same path for some time while pretending they are fighting each other and have differing agendas. For example, Immigration "Reform", the D's play the role FOR "legalizing" illegals and the R's pretend they are fighting that but in fact they BOTH continue to "compromise" for legalization. Notice on Health Care "Reform"(there's that R word again, always a red flag they are going to sell us out again), how all the power centers(politicos, party leadership, big megaphones) have framed the debate-none of them question the idea that "REFORM" is even called for, only what form this agreed upon NEEDED reform will be. They repeat this tactic to our detriment over and over, "Climate Change", etc.

I will be happy to provide more suggestions if you like. Good Luck.

BTW-I am an NC native but currently reside out of state. Where do live in NC?

thanks

On October 31st, 2009 homeschoolmom says:

live in concord, was transplanted from buffalo in 97

I heard Mickey Mouse was talking about inflation too

On October 31st, 2009 MikeLawson says:

Why isn't his video here? Turn off the TV. Back away slowly. Glenn Beck is a tv actor. Why does that allude so many of you. I know, I know, "but he's reaching people", so is Sorcha Faal, but it doesn't make the info any good. Pretty soon, Beck will start shilling for republican candidates (approved ones only) and you'll be wondering what happened to your little hero. If you make $500,000 a year, you'd need to work for 100 years to match Beck's contract; but you think he's on your side. Please stop being retarded.

What about

On October 31st, 2009 Furlough-Buzz says:

the Retarded people in my family? It seems the goontube is the only thing that gets through their turtle shell skulls and into the oatmeal that was once a brain.

I'll take whatever I can get, even if it's a fake, phony, fraudster who is going to turn on us when the time comes. We can use more angry people. We just need to learn how to 'detourn' the bait and switch and make it work for us.

I don't fault "regular" folks for watching

On October 31st, 2009 MikeLawson says:

It's people here who have access to good info. If Beck makes them responsive to real truth, then it's great they're watching. But, if he frames the truth and they once again only trust tv, then it's bad they're watching.
I just hate seeing this movement be co-opted. I've sunk an awful lot into it and I'm watching it go the wrong direction. It feels like my friends and I have been planning a cruise to a beautiful island for years and years. We built a great ship, got the best wine, and have been growing the passenger list for a long time. As soon as we set sail, the lounge singer convinces people the ship is going to miss the island if we don't make 2 lefts soon. Most of the people on our ship don't buy it because we know 2 lefts is a u-turn, but we only hire the best so the damn guy's popular. Suddenly, there's 50 ships all around us and they LOVE the lounge singer. When all the ships start making the big U-turn, we'll stand a good chance of getting swept up with them, or run into a lot of interference as we keep heading to the beautiful island and they go back home.
That's how it feels.

The lounge singer is good

On November 6th, 2009 freedom-fighters says:

he brings in the other ships but the Captain of our boat leads the way. So, all is well.

.

On October 31st, 2009 Furlough-Buzz says:

Good analogy.

Carlin-Equities-Thanks for the reply

On October 31st, 2009 gmason08 says:

Please respond to my questions you did not address.

Where do you live?

What brought you to Dr. Paul/Daily Paul?(and why so late?/why now?)

What do you like about Dr. Paul's message? (please expound here, your other comments are generally lengthy/specific) Particularly comment regarding foreign policy(primarily middle east), special interest influence on same/name specific influence groups. Are you completely comfortable, on-board w/ RP's isolationist views?

Do you have any areas of disagreement w/ RP, if so what/why?(please expound here, your other comments are generally lengthy/specific)

Carlin-Equities-Are you a principle or employee of this firm?

C-E "I've been paying attention to Dr. Paul since the the 1980's." Many people have been "paying attention" to RP for a long time, that is to be expected when one is clearly a lone voice stating repeatedly the emperor
has no clothes, emperorites definitely perk up. Did you instantly recognize what RP was saying as spot on as soon as you started paying attention?

C-E-"I campaigned for him vigorously in the last election, and contributed $."
Where did you campaign? Does anyone know you? What constitutes vigorous campaigning/what did that specifically consist of?

C-E- "I think I agree with him on pretty much everything except for some philosophical differences on abortion, though inconsequential."

What are RP's philosophical views re:abortion? How do you differ w/ what you consider to be RP's abortion philosophy?

Would you attach a political label to yourself? If so, what would that label be?

I look forward to your specific response to these questions. Thanks in advance.

What the hell?

On October 31st, 2009 EricHoffer says:

Is this 60 minutes?

Dan Rather? That you? Question King?

If you're looking for a date, I'm sure you two and engage in your directed discussion by email easily enough. Created a separate post maybe? Direct message?

What is this 3rd degree garbage? If you're looking to give the man a job with all of these questionnaires, why don't you call him?

Eric Hoffer

Eric

On October 31st, 2009 gmason08 says:

Hello.

Are you a DP Mod? If yes and your comment is an official moderator comment please explain further. If you are not a Mod please explain your issue here further. I gather that you see many questions and you have indicated there are many questions, got it, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What issue do you have with questions, what is the point of your comment. Are you wishing for me to infer questions of others are not allowed, bad form, what. On the chance that your issue here, which I am unable to discern w/ certainty, is with question marks I have left them from my comments here. Hope that helps a bit.

Thanks

gmason08

Robotocism

On November 3rd, 2009 EricHoffer says:

I gather that you see many questions and you have indicated there are many questions, got it, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

I was mostly referring to the way your sentence structure resembles a brainless interview script for a job application. As well as implying that unless you're the man holding some sort of coveted position, you don't get to make people fill out surveys as opposed to talking to them like human beings.

Are you a DP Mod? If yes and your comment is an official moderator comment please explain further. If you are not a Mod please explain your issue here further.

Why do I feel like I'm tracked in a programming loop? Please tell me you're not some form of AI program meant to catalog and retrieve data.

Hope that helps a bit.

Why does this reek of middle management and a cubicle? You've just given me a litany of questions and then expressed your heartfelt desire to have helped at the end. Really? Honestly?

Hey look over there! It's a bird! It's a plane! No wait, it's passive aggressive behavior!!

Eric Hoffer

I'll select bad form from your list of options. If I were CE I'd be telling you directly to mind your business, and that I've got as much need for your questionnaire as I do another free-loading brother in law. You'll notice there wasn't a response, and quite frankly, it's because you're talking like an ass.

I should be more like your

On November 4th, 2009 gmason08 says:

fine example then?

Forgot to thank you for sticking your nose in uninvited places but since it provided me with a free eric etiquette lesson it was overlooked.

Do you provide the personal service rendered above for a fee or perhaps there is another explanation? I do not mean etiquette examples.

For future reference, you have mistaken me for someone that has any concern about your opinion. Feel free to continue that mistaken assumption if you like.

et tu elitete?

I'll send you the bill then?

On November 9th, 2009 EricHoffer says:

Sorry, but when I see someone getting that sort of rude treatment it sticks in my craw. If you see a man being mugged on the side of the road, you either stop and say it's not your business or you step in.

You were talking like an ass, I pointed it out. Deal with it.

Eric Hoffer

Beck is afake, phony and a fraud

On October 31st, 2009 eilif says:

why do you keep promoting him here?
He is not our friend.
I hold those that promote him here on DP suspect...

Beck is a

On October 31st, 2009 RonzdaMan says:

well coached propagandist. A NeoCon. A leopard that will show his spots. Wait and see. I wish this guy would crawl back into his hole and die. He has done NOTHING for the real freedom movement. Beck is an actor and it is all about the ratings and the $$$$$$$$$$.

Carlin-Equities, Hello

On October 30th, 2009 gmason08 says:

I have read some of your comments, they were interesting to read, I look forward to reading more of what you have written. Very interesting stuff and very prolific for someone so new.

Please tell us more about yourself. Where do you live? What brought you to Dr. Paul/Daily Paul? What do you like about Dr. Paul's message? Do you have any areas of disagreement w/ RP, if so what/why? Carlin-Equities is an interesting screen name, please comment on that choice?

Welcome to the Daily Paul!!

gmason08

Hi

On October 31st, 2009 Carlin-Equities says:

Thanks for the comment.

I've been paying attention to Dr. Paul since the the 1980's. I campaigned for him vigorously in the last election, and contributed $. I think I agree with him on pretty much everything except for some philosophical differences on abortion, though inconsequential.

Carlin Equities is the name of a proprietary securities trading firm.

Thanks for the welcome.

and anudder ting

On October 30th, 2009 Acala says:

The hippies he sneers at near the beginning?

Well, those hippies were instrumental in ending the war in Viet Nam. They were also pioneers in bringing to the mainstream in this country alternative medicine, organic and raw food, yoga, meditation, some concern for pouring industrial poison into the air and water, and a healthy skepticism about the rise of the giant multi-national corporation. Sure, some of them were socialists. But not all of them. Not necessarily even most of them. And sure, government co-opted some of their ideas and turned them into coercive nightmares. But you can't blame the hippies for that.

Many of them had a thing or two to learn about economics and the way liberty works. But at least they cared about peace and morality and humanity. Not like the sick bastards Beck serves.

Beck can suck it.

Not enough gold?

On October 30th, 2009 jgar says:

Glenn is ridiculous. There is plenty of gold to back our currency. It's not about the amount.

Yup.

On October 30th, 2009 atrickpay says:

But in any case he is correct (but for the wrong reasons) in attacking the gold standard. The gold-standard is a sham...do you trust politicians with the currency?

Money should be left to the free-market.

Which gold standard do you speak of?

On October 31st, 2009 jgar says:

just wondering.

inflation is the least of our worries...

On October 30th, 2009 Paul Revere says:

you need to read this:

http://theautomaticearth....

ask here this question... as

On October 30th, 2009 bad_karma says:

ask here this question... as the government comes up way short on tax revenues, where will the government get the money to pay its trillions in obligations? once again hyperinflation is a currency event.. it is not an economic event..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

...

On November 3rd, 2009 Paul Revere says:

first they cut services---

then they tax the hell out of those who still have a job---

then they default....

they cannot print enough money to outpace the destruction of credit...

it is quite simple-- this event is too large--

you will get your inflation--hyperinflation--- but not before we are destroyed by the destruction of credit that has already begun--- auto earth and mish are on the same page....

Beck is a fraud...

On October 30th, 2009 Furious Primate says:

...and unless he openly asks for the troops to come home as well as apologize for marginalizing RP during the debates, I find it hard to trust that this guy is not controlled. The whole Patriot Act thing he still pushes, specially when it comes to torture. F this guy.
Javi S.

Beck SUCKS!

On October 30th, 2009 AnAppealToHeavenWash says:

Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010!

Rand Paul for US Senate in Kentucky!

Ron Paul 2012, Join or Die!

DONT TREAD ON ME

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Standing up for beck

On October 30th, 2009 jon_for_paul says:

I've read a number of these anti-Beck posts...and I feel compelled to stand up for the guy. Maybe he wasn't IDEAL a year or so ago, but he's learning, just like the rest of us....only difference is he's doing it on live TV and radio.

He's an individual with his own opinions and belief systems, and few of us wanted (want) to believe what's really going on. It takes time to be convinced that this isn't one big conspiracy theory, that it's real. Just ask my wife...she still thinks I'm crazy.

Ron Paul was the first to say that this movement wasn't about him. So if Beck doesn't perfectly represent Paul the way you may have liked, that's not really a problem. He's spreading the message, he's representing us more than most of the Neo-Con's on TV and he's trying, every night, the best way he knows how, to get the truth out there....just like he did with this video.

My Problem With Beck Right Now

On November 2nd, 2009 R_Michael says:

I can agree that Glen Beck is sounding more and more like a Ron Paul Conservative lately. And it is worth noting that the more he hits on the core issues that Dr. Paul has been right about for decades, the more people seem to flock to his 9/12 project. In that sense, if Beck and others (like Fox) would have been giving Dr. Paul his due two years ago, things might be further along by now... but I digress.

Beck is even starting to waver (if my last listen to him wasn't my imagination) on his pro-war stance (like I said, if my mind isn't playing tricks on me). But my problem with Beck is that he acts like this new found "insight" of his is something he's been onto for years.... which frankly is a load of crap. I would have far more respect for the man if he would simply admit the truth and come clean. It's simple - he can do it with a few lines, and without any crying: "I have come to the realization that I was duped all these years by the Neo-Cons. Hell, I was a neo-con. I was wrong. Now I understand what the Liberty movement is all about... and I damn well wish I had understood all this when Ron Paul was running for President."

If I heard that, I might even join the 9/12 project! For goodness sakes, I had to say these words myself... except for the last part. I was awake in time to campaign for the good doctor!

Beck isn't 'learning', he's conning

On October 30th, 2009 TreeTop007 says:

Please explain to us how Beck was 'learning' on 'live TV and radio' that Ron Paul and his supporters were 'domestic terrorist'. That's pure BS.

And this Revolution isn't about believing in Ron Paul conspiracy theories, it's about freedom, honesty, the rule of law, and adhering to the Constitution. The beauty of free and honest people is that they DON'T have to agree on everything, or walk lock-step with any one person, group, party, etc. Beck is neither free nor honest, He's following a script of propaganda that reveals his dishonesty.

Beck isn't getting the 'truth' out there for us, he's conning you and discrediting 'us'.

Until the day that Beck ADMITS on live TV and radio that he intentionally lied about Ron Paul and his supporters in order to help the establishment torpedo Ron Pauls Presidential campaign, I'll call him a LIAR. And anyone who puts their trust in that LIAR, is either a fool, or a LIAR also.

Hey look!

On October 31st, 2009 EricHoffer says:

Hey look! It's Tree Top Bond! Come to share his character generalizations and theories with the world as if they were based on rational evidence!

Tree Top Bond, license to shill. Or as least spew forth hypocrisies without starting a new paragraph!

The beauty of free and honest people is that they DON'T have to agree on everything, or walk lock-step with any one person, group, party, etc. Beck is neither free nor honest, He's following a script of propaganda that reveals his dishonesty.

So, the beauty of a free and honest people is that they don't have to agree, but Beck is a complete enemy because he doesn't 100% agree? Does Q have a gadget to make that logically follow or is it just blatantly obvious how wrong that statement is to everyone else?

So far, Beck has had a long history on the air. I've changed opinions on some major things over the last 8 years. Is there some reason why Beck isn't allowed to? He was rooting for Romney, he was emailed death threats, and lets be honest, we Paul supporters are a damned vehement bunch. We get emotional, and not everyone follows Dr. Paul's examples of gentlemanly behavior. Hell, we nailed Hannity with snowballs.

We're not looking for leaders here. No one is saying Beck is our "leader," but the guy has done some damned fine things in the last year or so, and not applauding good conduct is just absurd. When people make crappy false statements, we inundate with email to correct, but when they're espousing our own views partially, why are we so stingy with the praise?

Quit blaming the crap on Beck, he's free publicity for the movement and our ideas, which are all that matter. I don't care if Rasputin rises from the dead or Jon and Kate Plus 8 say that free markets are the way to go, I'll clap my hands for them.

Eric Hoffer

Well said... damn well said!

On November 2nd, 2009 R_Michael says:

Well said... damn well said!

Beck is the enemy

On October 31st, 2009 TreeTop007 says:

'So, the beauty of a free and honest people is that they don't have to agree'

The problem is that Beck's neither 'free' nor 'honest', he's a bought and paid for conman.

And you're

On October 31st, 2009 EricHoffer says:

And you're bought and paid for by the CIA trying to make Paul supporters look like morons who are unaccepting and incapable of making rational arguments.

See how easy that is?

Lets dodge the circular reasoning here. Beck stays on the air as long as he's popular and makes Fox money. He could be hosting infomercials on juicers if he's getting that kind of popularity and bringing in that kind of ad revenue, they'll leave him be.

And if he IS bought and paid for, shouldn't we be thanking whoever is paying the bills to get parts of OUR message out there?

Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth, accept that Beck doesn't fully agree with us yet, but that he's moving in the right direction and he's vocalizing that direction to a few million people who'll consider what he says. Once they start thinking rationally, it'd be hard to get them to stop. Get them on the right track and they'll start learning for themselves.

Once a man begins to listen to Ron Paul, he doesn't cave in for the other crap so easily in the future.

Eric Hoffer

You promote Glenn Beck then claim I'm at fault?

On October 31st, 2009 TreeTop007 says:

Enough said.

When Beck demonstrates AGAIN that he is an enemy of Ron Paul and the Revolution, let it be noted that Eric Hoffer helped him.

Is it fair to say he is

On November 2nd, 2009 R_Michael says:

Is it fair to say he is "promoting" Glenn Beck? Defending aspects of the man's behavior is hardly cause to say he is a PR guy for him.

If this movement has a flaw, it is a character flaw. It is the flaw of hyperbola masquerading as logical argumentation. Hey, I'm all for passion and stating your case artfully. But let's state it both artfully and logically. Also, it seems to me (and I am NO Glenn Beck fan, see above) that we need to lose some of this purest nonsense that goes on here. Hell, Dr. Paul was glad to have someone like Alan Greyson fighting with him on HR1207. Why not join forces on the issues we can agree on, while standing firm and arguing LOGICALLY (and without the personal insults) where we don't. Seems to me that this is how Dr. Paul conducts himself. Why not more of us.

A Liar is a Liar

On November 6th, 2009 TreeTop007 says:

To call Glenn Beck a liar is not 'purest nonsense', it's a fact.

If you and Eric Hoffer don't want to discredit a liar who did his best to discredit Ron Paul and his supporters during the Presidential Campaign, then piss on both of you.

Glenn Beck reminds me of really fresh stinky cat $h!t

On October 30th, 2009 AnAppealToHeavenWash says:

Please stop dragging this Beck crap into dailypaul.

It doesn't matter how much powdered sugar you put on it, it still tastes nasty when you bite into the soft center,.

PLEASE STOP POSTING GLENN BECK CRAP TO DAILYPAUL.COM!

Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010!

Rand Paul for US Senate in Kentucky!

Ron Paul 2012, Join or Die!

DONT TREAD ON ME

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Glenn Beck, a LIAR

On October 30th, 2009 TreeTop007 says:

This LIAR considered Ron Paul and his supporters 'domestic terrorists', and that was no mistake, that was by design. He might as well called Mother Teresa a 'thieving whore'.

To see this LIAR promoted on the Daily Paul as some sort of ally is sickening.

Those who 'woke up' to Ron Paul didn't wake up from listening to liars, they woke up by NOT listening to liars. If anyone ever honestly thought Ron Paul was a 'kook', 'quack' or 'domestic terrorist', they thought that only because they had listened to a LIAR.

Not listening at all is better than listening to, and agreeing with, a LIAR. A LIAR without listeners is harmless.

Glenn Beck is our enemy. Some of us need to wake up...again.

truth is

On October 31st, 2009 Wild-Blue says:

he is instrumental in at least making people think. We just need to do our job and provide them with the rest of the story when they start seeking out the truth!

3,000,000 / 304,059,724 =

On October 30th, 2009 csb says:

3,000,000 / 304,059,724 = .98%

I don't admire what Glenn Beck does ... but it's comforting to know that it only affects less than 1% of the population.

---
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -- General John Stark.

Don't Federal tax liens already trump county tax liens?

On October 29th, 2009 DontTaxMeBro says:

If federal income tax or county property taxes legalize placing a lien on your property for whatever reason including potentially backing a new quasi-currency for legal debts to either the federal or state governments, there is already the ability to do what Beck speculates. I was even hoping something like that could evolve to get a voucher for property taxes I pay while not having children in the public school system. I could use that voucher to pay against my non-school property taxes or car tags or file for refund of sales taxes on big ticket items. But all that would be using my pre-payment of labor not my personal land backing the currency. Indirectly the state would be guaranteeing the refund to me on its ability to take the property of others over time.

It seems to me the only scenario that in the long-run helps common people is federal default and let the chips fall. Corporate trade would evaporate globally but garage based small manufacturing and production would pull us into a simpler more modest economy and lifestyle. We'll end up that way but at least it will be on our terms.