Substitute teacher form - Forced "Oath of Allegiance"? To the GOVERNMENT?

Scratch it out, sign it, present it to your principal (or whoever), inform them that they are being recorded, and see what they say.

I bet they say nothing.

If you don't want to be dramatic, simply ask your principal about it.

Whether you sign it or not, the government will expect you to teach sex ed, not allow healthy food, etc.

BTW: Isn't it sad that supporting the Constitution and pledging alledgence to our government contradictions.

Isn't the fact that they threatened to no longer employ me if I did not sign enough to negate the document?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I can't imagine this being such a narrow focus.
Why would a substitute teacher be forced to take an oath to the federal government and the state government?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

...which was posted down lower in this thread.
http://1215.org/lawnotes/...
GREAT read.
So, Jesus said "swear no oaths"... It seems Jesus may have been more of a anti-government rabble-rouser then we thought!
If we swear no allegiance, then it can never be used against us.
Interesting stuff about the "penalties of perjury" fine print on the tax forms.
Don't you have to be under oath to perjure yourself?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

here for writing checks, or no?

Just sign it. There are very few governments established under the authority of the people. If you do not teach the children, who will take your place?

and then sign it and turn it in.

aren't coerced into signing oaths of allegiance.

"I freely support the Constitution and reserve the right to not support it in the future."

I know a job is important, but what are you willing to do get a job. Are you willing to take an oath to the president, Obama if it means getting a job teaching? This should be a no brainer and as a teacher what example are you setting for your students? How is taking an oath to government any different. History repeats itself, you need not take an oath to anyone or anything.
The Nazi's used this same scheme to get control of the army, if they didn't take an oath to the president, Hitler, then they were out of a job. As free people we should never have to take an oath to anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
Werner von Blomberg personally ordered all soldiers in the army to pledge the Reichswehreid (oath of allegiance) not to Volk and Fatherland, but to the new Reichspräsident and Führer Adolf Hitler, which is thought to have limited later opposition to Hitler.
It appears the government is trying to limit opposition to it today.

I trust you are an accredited teacher in the state of New Jersey. I don't understand why the unions will have nothing to do with you. I would pose the question that if it is the intention of the School Board or the State to incrementally replace the existing teaching population with outside supply teachers that are willing to sign such a suspicious document as if only Obama supporters would be allowed to teach???? ... that is all the more reason to be very cognizant of what you're getting into. Do the existing unions realize this is going on? I think this is much more fearful and dire than meets the eye. I also believe the term "true faith" has to be clearly defined.

I was recently hired to teach in a California community college. I had a similar form to sign but it didn't have to inclusion in it. It was strictly the Oath itself. And mine stated that I was sworn to defend the Constitution against all enemies - foreign and domestic. I thought about our President and most of the politicians as being enemies.

I would find the true Oath of Allegiance that I signed and get it to look just like the one you are supposed to sign but replace it. If they question you, you can tell them that is the Oath of Allegiance that all government officials should sign so it should be enough.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

talk about deception and trickery. This oath looks legitimate but is quickly perverted. Don't sign as is.

and let them know you agree to everything but that.

As an American it is your perogative to dissent against that which your conscience will not be at peace.

Know if you take that position signing it the way they want and you end of clashing with something the government wants you to impose upon the children, they will point out that you signed that oath and can say you breached the oath.

Cross out solemnly swear, and cross out bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments...
If asked why, say that you have religious convictions that do not allow you to swear. Matthew 5:33-37
Do the same thing with your tax return, fill it, sign it, but cross out anything that binds you to jurisdiction.

grant

http://1215.org/lawnotes/...

It is quite an interesting take that may help put all of this in perspective for you.

"under the authority of the people" as a limiter to the extent to which you pledge allegiance to the gov't. So, it's allegiance to the overlap of the gov't as far as it is under the authority of the people, not an acknowledgment that it is entirely.

out the part you don't like, initial it (the scratched out part) and sign it. That's what I would do. Do you think they are actually going to look at it? Remember this is GOVERNMENT, they are inept!

**Not legal advice, just sayin' **
Say YES to Dr. NO

The School Board must be aware that declaring an oath of Allegiance to the Constitution is the same as upholding allegiance to the operating government if it is legitimate. By having you sign a separate oath to uphold the existing government is an admission that it is outside the authority of the Constitution, is it not? What does your teacher's federation or union say about this? This is getting scarier and scarier!!! How brave are you?

to the obama song?