Health care: "Tell the Senate No, We Will Sue." Devvy Kidd Weighs In 11/12
UPDATE NOV 12:
"There had to be plaintiffs willing to take on the corrupt government. That's how you win, not more complaining."Devvey Kidd
http://www.devvy.com/new_...
Who knows what the senate's version of the Bill from Hell will look like, but now is the time for individuals, health care providers and businesses let their U.S. Senator know we will not comply. How hard is that?
I have cited these cases over the years and this goes to health care providers. Probably not Kaiser, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and the other big HMOs. It appears they have cut deals with the devil and care nothing about the U.S. Constitution. However, all other health care providers: Congress has ZERO authority to dictate how you practice medicine and deal with your patients:
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ORIGINAL POST
Over the weekend I was thinking....
There has to be 100 million Americans who are pissed off enough to invest $10 a month to maintain a website and hire lawyers to start bringing criminal charges against public and private officials.
With a budget of a billion dollars a month we could hire excellent quality legal teams (there are even patriot groups who are qualified) to bring some real discomfort to these treasonous bastards.
With a billion dollars a month we could fire-off sustained TV, radio and web ads to gain increasing awareness and support
People get all stoked-up about a Glenn Beck show or a You Tube documentary but then the most it seems to lead to is a demonstration or some political personel re-shuffle.
Wouldn't we be taken more seriously if the perps started to find out that they would be hunted down by law enforcement and indicted for criminal behavior? That, yes the Constitution really is a legal document with real consequences when violated?
There is already an army of unpaid volunteers out there. The billion dollars a month could go right to legal expenses and media buys.
Any ideas?
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Possible allies:
Vincent Bugliosi
http://www.prosecutionofb...
Americans Restoring America
http://www.americansresto...
LEONARD G. HOROWITZ
http://www.fluscam.com/Af...
Judge Napolitano
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Citizens Reform Center Legal Club
http://www.citizensreform...
DAVID B. RIVKIN JR. AND LEE A. CASEY
http://www.bakerlaw.com/
We The People Foundation
http://www.cc2009.us/abou...
Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund
http://www.ftcldf.org/
Citizens of the American Constitution
http://www.citizensofthea...
UPDATE: Nov 3 - 8PM
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This strategic approach is worth
supporting.
I know. It sends tingles up my spine...
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Note to Daddy War Bucks
Can you please read the posting guidelines again?
One of the things it says is not to repost the entire text of articles from other websites, which you did with Devvy Kidd's excellent article, which got your post flagged for spam, which I had to then go in and release and then delete the majority of your copyright theft, and post a link to her article instead.
I have better things to do with my time, thanks.
If you continue to steal, by posting the entire text of copyrighted articles on the DP, it can get me and the DP in trouble. Plus it just isn't nice. It is bad manners.
Maybe you didn't know, and that's fine. Now you know. Please don't do it again.
Thanks for your understanding.
Michael Nystrom
Thanks. I sent you an email about that. But the spam filter
caught it.
Sorry about the inconvenience Michael.
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Give all you can
To CFL . If you are not a member you need to sign up.
Personally, I stopped giving to Johnny Tate. Ron Paul picks
hustlers to run his camps. It's one of Ron Paul's blind spots. Ron Paul could easily pick a guy like Michael Nystrom and have someone who works like a one armed paper hanger for a reasonable salary.
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I'd rather support YAL.
I agree. Dr.Paul has quite the blind spot there with the people he has surrounding him for sure.
DaddyWarBucks
I totally agree with you on the C4L they lost me the last election,
the leadership of Mr. Tate is a disgrace.
" I will take REAL money and YOU
can have the change "
I am still in.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
whatever happened to
whatever happened to Committees of Safety?
.
Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
http://www.campaignforlib...
http://www.ohiofreedom.co...
They probably got listed with the DHS hot list.
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Website ideas? "www.mycountry.com" - "www.myusa.com"
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
C'mon. Search out more groups like "We The People Foundation"
The idea is to find existing groups that can be networked who will reach out to the entire nation. Any kind of comsumer or advocacy group would be potential allies.
We don't want to spend money on massive media at first. We want to draw the attention of the media AFTER we've dragged a few culprits to the public shame of court action. Our resources need to be conserved for court filings, legal teams and citizen panels that decide which culprits need to be targeted first.
And it doesn't matter if we get the top guy first. We can get a big guy often times by pulling on a small thread anywhere in an organization.
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Well, said
We do have organizations now. I think we need some high profile class action lawsuits to gain our freedoms or at least get people thinking.
They have networks with thousands of people
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this is good
Who ever takes the lead on this needs to set up a donation web site. Also set out a Plan for the money. Point by Point what you are going to do with it. This shouldn't be one of the many Ideas that fail to see the light of day on the Daily Paul. I think there are lots of people like me that really want be proactive and be a part of something big. That would be your biggest selling point. Most of us have lost our faith in the system. Thinking outside the box is a good thing.
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100 million, divided by 6.5 billion is 1.53846 percent.
Do you think we have 100 million people world wide that are interested in a "new world order" based on Mises, and not Keynesian ecomomics?
That would be 1.5% of the world population.
Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur voices her frustration, says stay home, mortgage papers lost, be squatters in your own home.
Posted October 13th, 2009 by THX1138
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Oct 13, 2009 ... If we're going to have a NWO that's fine with me, make it Mises, not Keynes. Lets liberate people, not enslave them. Mises = liberty. Keynes= enslavement ..
Sign Me up!
Tell me what to do and I'm there!
mace
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I love this idea!
And I see that some say the DailyPaul could be the collection point, but does the DailyPaul have 100,000,000 members?
I think 100 million may be too big a number.
but maybe 1 million at 10 bucks a month, 10 million dollars, that is definitely doable.
But, I've been wrong before, anyways thanks for the idea, it really is a great idea.
The Daily Paul would become a household word
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
For those of you who listen to Alex Jones....
Wouldn't you rather hear advertisements for law firms that go after corruption.... with little sound bites of actual trial transcripts....instead of spots for water filters, seeds and survival food?
We could come out of that imaginary bunker and be THE force to be contended with--instead of preparing for life in FEMA camps.
Most of these scum would probably leave the country because it would be too hot here.
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I think this is an interesting idea!
Double bump!
If it were possible all our trouble would be over...
Should the GOP find out that we were raising 1billion a month they would line up faster than whores at the bunny ranch, and low and behold, they might just remember where they all lost their copies of the constitution... If we could raise that kind of money we could play the game of today's politics and own a couple of congressmen and Senators...
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain
Why Not Start Right Here?
We're the core. Michael's a straight-shooter. Make DP the collection point for a MUCH larger intiative as you've decribed.
The Liberty Fund. I'll commit to twenty bucks a month and relentless promotion.
Michael: do this, please.
Edit: SEIU has two million members and their activism put Obama in the White House. We can top this- easy.
Quick
Just a quick point, realize there are roughly 330 million people in the country. You're looking for a third of them to donate to something "liberty" centered monthly?
I mean don't get me wrong, I applaud the idea in terms of getting people set up on a monthly $10 (or even $50 to $100 as they can afford it) donation to a Ron Paul or Rand Paul campaign, but it's a whole lot of leg work on your part. I'd just like to see you have achievable goals. Heck, shorten that list to "1000 people donating $10-100 per month" and I'll add my name to the list.
If you can get them to auto-bill my credit card so I don't have to think about writing checks, I'd probably take the amount from 10 up to $50 per month, and I'd even be excited about watching us hit the "1000 people" mark.
I'd say screw the RICO charges. Waste of money, waste of time, waste of energy, and a definitely kick in the pants for any credibility. Spend it all on media buys and video production. Buy spots inside TV shows, buy spots on the news, pay Jay Leno to make jokes about it, whatever, but don't spend it in courts on attorneys.
Eric Hoffer
Eric Hoffer, have you ever had a team of lawyers sue you?
It grinds you to a pulp and eats up money. Defending is far more expensive than filing complaints. And it can ruin careers, finance and families.
Case histories could make juicy reality TV episodes too.
We have enough bad actors to keep a series going for years.
I think bringing these people to justice would be like cleaning festered national wounds so this country can recover.
The courtrooms would be full of passionate spectators.
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Actually
I've had the IRS sue me. Multiple times. Want to see a team of lawyers intent on beating you down? The IRS hires the finest. I've beaten them representing myself, please see http://cocatalog.loc.gov/... to locate the complete briefs of our battles with the IRS.
(If you're looking for how it ended, we won and had 3 tax free years to keep us from shutting down the unconstitutional tax court.)
It grinds you to a pulp and eats up money. Defending is far more expensive than filing complaints. And it can ruin careers, finance and families.
And then you get the counter suit for your frivolous lawsuit. Laughed out of court, money wasted, etc. The only people who win in this are lawyers.
Case histories could make juicy reality TV episodes too.
You'll notice Ortiz's last case, not to mention the various "tax protester" cases last a shorter time than a season of survivor right? Maybe that's what we need, "Survivor: Federal Court." Last idiotic case not dismissed wins their dignity back?
I think bringing these people to justice would be like cleaning festered national wounds so this country can recover.
Sure, you can either clean the wounds up, or you can stop what's causing the wounds in the first place. Cleaning the festering wounds of a man who intends to stab himself at the first available opportunity is expensive and time consuming, taking his knife away is easier.
The courtrooms would be full of passionate spectators.
Real courts aren't like Judge Judy. Don't you have a few million you're supposed to be donating to kick this off?
Eric Hoffer
EricHoffer, I couldn't find the case at that link
If I could read it, I'd be interested in talking to you.
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It's not the case data
It's the book in which we copyrighted and published the court paperwork.
"Double Treason Against the United States of America" didn't sell well, but we figured it was our best bet at getting the word out at the time.
Send me a message here sometime with your email address and I'll see if I can get a copy for you. It's easier than finding all our original documents, and it contains the background info to the cases as well.
Eric Hoffer
We have got to get someone in the mainstream media to push this
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
idea, and the first year would have to be a one time $120 commitment, so people could see how effective it was so they don't lose steam. I am in, only 999,999,998 people to go.
Bloomberg would be all over it. Think Madoff coverage
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
This is a very good idea. I
This is a very good idea. I believe it will be a stretch to get $10 monthly from 100 million people, but you gotta start somewhere.
Here's a suggestion: If you're going to have a membership website component you could use that for managing the monthly donations/subscriptions. Take a look at the forum software from vBulletin.com, it has paid membership subscription ability built-in and it's quite easy to use (works through PayPal, but can also integrate with other payment processors).
Thanks for vbulletin
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Depending how its done I
Depending how its done I could kick in $10 a month.
Wait! Didn't the blimp guy put something together like this? Here it is:
http://www.libertyrestora...
I've been donating to them.....
I'm ready
lets do it. Whats our plan.
Folks, we are gleaning momentum with what we have in currently.
One thousand times $20 is twenty thousand per month.
Let's just do that, until we reach 200 million world wide.
Freedom and liberty are popular.
There are good wholesome choices to place monies or wooden tokens.
If what ever financial world we inherit, we have shown to have already donated our hearts, and that is priceless.
The networking of the peoples is the greater good.
And having said that, the modern world of network marketing financing, therein rewarding individuals for helping others is being indorsed by Donald Trump and Robert Kyosaki.
We have "entreprenueral" bright spots to polish too.
And persons, the best in the planet with astounding successes in setting up such, is available to us.
PyraBang had a similar idea, with his awarding money for the most "bang" on posting.
However, I would like to see the lawyers at least, find the rational logic to set up a wide acceptance of the people, written on paper,
that this bottom line be treason and death by hanging,
and work our way up to sweet talking.
But the line in the sand is drawn. The farm issues did for me way back.
Chemotherapy a close second.
I remember the good ol days, and that was just before 1950.
Then 1970 gave rise to insidious mind sets of "incrementalism" and we got raped
and pillaged very slowly over time . . . .
"Was it good for you?"
But simply, we can do better.
Farm issues are going to affect the masses painfully in 18-24 m
months. And there is a legal group we can approach who is already working those issues.
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
DaddyWarBucks, you've got wisdom.
And you hold no punches. We could use some monies to sent to the permaculture warriors, of help them pay what I see, and the number one front of this invasion of fascism and monarchy, which attracts the broken brained, UN supported buearucrats like Obama, the lesser one.
Really, WACO, Davidians, Amish all represent farming communities. The UN thugs went for them first, and killed them before our very eyes on television.
"IS ANYBODY OUT THERE?" permaculturalist need our help more than a person needs our help running for an office.
I would like to see us expand our donations outside the politician, and go directly to what we have investigated as a trust worth group of warriors, like even paying gas for the "Granny Warriors". You know, stuff like that we can do with $20,000 per month.
I've donated to Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund
and the Manna people in Ohio. I'm also working out a deal with Polyface farm in VA.
I have to diversify the funds to various groups. In the next two months I think we will be positioned to begin organizing lawyers and para-legals to bring suits against these state Ag depts.
Barack Obama, Salesman of the year for firearms, ammo, gold and silver .
~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~>> "Is Anybody Out There?"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I'm with you all the way.
The populations of the world anticipate our leadership. It just takes access to the truth.
I trust in your choices for donation, especially the Manna people in Ohio, who represent rural types all over the world, being manipulated or killed off their lands, to make room for sterilization of the eco systems (Agenda 21).
how about buying all the local newspapers?
*)))
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"a half truth is a full lie" old Jewish saying quoted by Gary Null
exposing big pharma and their deadly vaccines
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I love your
idea, legalize!
Daddy, you have gotten a lot of good feedback here; I hope this goes someplace; please keep us updated. I do think, like many others, that aiming for 100 million people to pitch in is not feasible, though...
I've been after this also
Our HALC group in Houston TX is getting better, we're working on funding to get our Debra Medina the Governors job. We could use some billboards in that respect. I'm calling on some outdoor advertisers to donate or get us space a a discount. By hook or crook...
From what I've heard,
From what I've heard, billboard space is going really cheap now. It could be just in my area, but I think all advertising revenue is down quite a bit. Don't be shy to make super low ball offers. In my small town there is a restaurant, a small restaurant, with 3 or 4 billboards on the freeway, and she only pays a few hundred a month. I heard Debra Medina on Alex Jones the other day and she sounds great. A female Ron Paul!
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Thanks Ira
I just sent a fax to slimeball mel watt and I'm a little upset, I advise we all send him a go to hell for when he gets to the office tomorrow..bastard!!
Big BUMP.
yup.
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