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SC Dean Allen-Ron Paul Supporters Spammers and Poll Riggers?

So it seems to me that Dean thinks we are a bunch of spammers who rigged the internet based polls. What about the 2 money bombs, each of which raised more money than any candidate ever raised in a single day? I saw this message posted, supposedly by Dean Allen, on TeaPartyCoalition, a yahoo internet group, and I am really surprised by this. Members of this group were very quick to respond, and his comments appear to be unwelcome by some. I have emailed Dean to find out why he did this. If you see him, please ask him. I cannot understand why a candidate would go out of his way to alienate folks who might have supported him. I even sent money to his campaign!
Here is his letter:
Posted by: "Dean@VoteDeanAllen.com"
Wed Nov 4, 2009 9:26 am (PST)

Obama and his crowd have taken total control in Washington.

These people have three salient features:

1. They are hard corps racists who hate white people.
2. They are radical communists in the Lennin/Trotsky/Mao mold.
3. They believe a big strong central government is necessary for happiness.

The only thing standing between this cabal of pure evil, and defending our freedom, is the Republican party. You may think it is cute to misspell Republican. I think it is gross ignorance of the threat facing America and of the urgency of positioning the Republican party to stop this suicidal slide into madness.

The only thing Ron Paul's supporters were ever able to "rig" was internet based polls that allowed multiple votes from the same few folks. Did any of you ever notice that while you could quickly spam internet based polls and get Ron Paul to 98% in three hours; he never got out of single digits with Rasmussen, Gallup, and other real polls? Have you figured out yet that folks rolled their eyes and laughed like hell at your phony internet based polls? Did you notice that your internet polling did NOT convert into real votes in caucuses and primaries?

Actually you certainly do have the right to vote in primaries. Ron Paul did exceptionally well in the primaries for someone with foreign policy views so far outside the mainstream.

You may not be aware of it, but a caucus will actually work strongly against any candidate like Ron Paul. You are much better off in primaries. Why? Because, if your caucus rules are patterned like those in Iowa, any candidate not getting 10% in the first round of balloting is wiped out and his campaign gets zero delegates. The caucus process continues with his delegates being required to go to the candidate, among those who received more than 10%, who is their second choice. Ron Paul never got over 5% in a multi candidate field, and often had 2% or less. Those are just facts.

Under a caucus system; you will be out in the cold, and trying to decide if you now want to go with Romney, Huckabee, or Thompson as your second choice?

There is a change needed for fairness, but it is NOT going from primaries to caucuses. Instead, you need to reform party rules in most states that give ALL the delegates to the candidate with a plurality in a multi-candidate field. Those rules gave John McCain 100% of the South Carolina delegates to the national convention with only 33% of the popular votes.

Proportional allocation of delegates would have given Ron Paul, and every other candidate who never had a plurality, delegates in proportion to the number of popular votes they received in the primary.

If your plan is to spam the polls and plot ways to take over and railroad things for your candidate, you are worse than the folks you oppose. You will correctly be seen as dangerous outsiders trying to take over and wreck the place.

On the other hand, if you were joining others who want the rules reformed to make them more fair to all candidates, including Ron Paul, you will find that fairness is on your side. You will have a LOT of allies among the supporters of other Republican candidates.

You are absolutely right about one thing "Ron Paul could have ran a better Presidential campaign." That is an understatement if there ever was one! His supporters need to understand, it is beyond idiotic, to see the Republican party as the enemy, with all the insanity surrounding the Obama regime.

You need to understand that most of you have not been in politics before. Did you expect to read one book about football and be invited to play in the Super Bowl? Many of us were fighting for Goldwater almost fifty years ago against the "Rockefeller Republicans." (Today, you would call them RINO's.) In years when we get just a few extra folks helping us we are able to nominate - and elect - a Ronald Reagan. Then we get to do things like end communism - without having to fight a war. In years when we are outnumbered, and the majority tips to the RINO crowd, we get nominees like Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and our republic suffers, whether they win or lose in November.

I beg you to look closely at the racist, communists in the Obama regime, and then join a LOT of solid conservative Republicans in the effort to save America from these monsters. Focus all that anger and energy you have on America's real enemies, and you will find you have a LOT of natural allies in the Republican party. More importantly, you can start actually winning things that make a real difference.

Tea Party folks have an opportunity to play a decisive part in selecting, and electing the next GOP nominee in 2012. However, that nominee is not going to be 77 year old Ron Paul. The Tea Party movement is doing a great service for America. Trying to hijack it to cry over what might have been with my old friend Ron Paul, is a dangerous waste of time.

Regards,

Dean Allen
P.O. Box 4173
Greenville, SC 29608

(864) 641-0066
He is running for Adjutant General of SC http://www.votedeanallen....

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I believe it would be very

I believe it would be very beneficial for Dean@VoteDeanAllen.com to receive many email responses from Ron Paul supporters.

lol

"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36)

bump

"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36)

Fuel to the Fire :) ....That's all that is..

Just fuel to the fire..

What would Ron Paul say about it?

Maybe "At the end I will win this argument, because we are broke!"? :-)

"Doing nothing is almost always an option and is very often the best option." Daniel Hannan

Mason and NWO shill from SC?

Must be one of Lindsey Graham's butt buddies.

Oh I get it. Just shut up

Oh I get it. Just shut up and fall in line. Right....

What a Pompous, RHINO

IDIOT!

One thing that does hack me off about some of our fellow

supporters of freedom and of Ron Paul. That is placing a youtube video up and using key words of popular youtube searches to mislead people into thinking their video has something to do with that key word. For example, go to youtube and do a search for Gerald Celente and select "newest" under relevance. You will get tons of videos that have nothing to do with Gerald Celente, but do have to do with something else like Peter Schiff or Ron Paul, and it is clear that the people doing this are part of the freedom movement.

Using fraud like this to accomplish one's goals shows one as having the same lack of morals as the thugs who own and operate our government, plus it creates backlash against those who one is trying to help.

Dean Allen

seems to be all bound up in military trappings, if you look at his website.
He apparently thinks war is great thing.

He's also a Mason, and involved with some other Masonic organizations, and seems to think that is something to commend him!

One of the things that made me laugh when I read his website was that he's "raffling-off an AK47(semi-auto) to promote the 2nd Amendment", and then has the disclaimer that "the person that wins has to submit to a background check".
Well, so much for the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms without infringement, I guess!

He's probably not the worst guy out there, and an ex-Goldwater supporter, but he seems to be a neocon warmonger,so he's got real problems.

To my knowledge,

I never rigged a poll. I only vote once. The only way I could have ever possibly rigged one was if the poll was ongoing and I voted twice over the course of several weeks or months, thinking I hadn't yet voted...

I don't cheat on them, either.

Unfortunately, though, on one of the recent RP poll threads, there was someone bragging that he was doing it and he posted how to go about it.

Some of us told him to knock it off, but if others saw what he was saying, they have ammo to make accusations now.

hmmmm....

???

Make just one call to Dean (864) 641-0066

Let him know that you only vote once and you are not rigging the polls.

If we all do this he will get the message and the reality of his mistake.

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AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN - WASHINGTON'S CRUISERS

It was reported

that there were a few Ron Paul spammers that were fixing the polls. That report was wrong. Unless those few spammers were multi-millionaires that donated over 6 million in one day and over 4 million on another day and on MLK day donated another million plus. Ron Paul had virtually zero name recognition in 2007 going into 2008 and yet he garnered over a million votes. The voting populous in our military also spoke with their hard earned dollars and game more to Ron Paul than any other candidate and all candidates combined. I don't know who Dean Allen is but he's on my sh$%list now.

I just called his Campaign manager

which is, Amanda Moore, and sent her this email. She said she is done, she is mad as HELL!

Can you tell us more?

Was she just mad about this or other things?

Is she a Ron Paul supporter?

She worked for Ron Paul

in the Charleston office, she is a true patriot!

Awesome

You just never know where a R3volUTion patriot is...hahaha...love it!

Wow!

There's real venom behind those words . . .

Blessings )o(