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I am trying to a passport as a citizen of my state as opposed to a United States Citizen. Does anyone know how to go about doing this?

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getting a passport is a RIGHT

so they cant deny it, they can however trick you into declaring that you are a "Citizen of the United States" or into other presumptions.

TITLE 22 - FOREIGN RELATIONS AND INTERCOURSE
CHAPTER 38 - DEPARTMENT OF STATE

-HEAD-
Sec. 2721. Impermissible basis for denial of passports

-STATUTE-
A passport may not be denied issuance, revoked, restricted, or
otherwise limited because of any speech, activity, belief,
affiliation, or membership, within or outside the United States,
which, if held or conducted within the United States, would be
protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United
States.

-SOURCE-
(Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 841, title I, Sec. 49, as added Pub. L. 102-138,
title I, Sec. 113, Oct. 28, 1991, 105 Stat. 655.)

I would love to hear if someone has done this yet.

Theories are interesting but useless unless implemented. I used to travel to other countries once a year back when I was a U.S. Citizen. I really want to do that again.

I flew to the Rally for the Republic last September with my state Citizenship affidavit which included my picture. I also brought my expired passport just to be safe. I was given "Selectee" status but was still able to catch my flight to and fro without any major incidents.

how to apply as a national

http://famguardian.org/Su...

if youre unsure if you are a national, read this.
http://famguardian.org/Su...

Honestly, why? I'm not

Honestly, why? I'm not trying to be rude, and I understand the moral reasons, but you don't want to screw around with the documents you need for international travel. If you are just going to the Mexico or something then it won't matter but if you are making a long trip to a country that requires a visa then I highly recommend getting the passport through the State Department. The easiest way is to go to the closest SD passport office with the required documents if you have proof of need. You can get it the same day that way. Otherwise they will ship it to you in a few days.

Do you really want to be stuck at an airport in Africa because the guy at customs doesn't recognize your passport? Do you really want to eat the visa application fees because the outsourcing company for the embassy you are applying to only accepts a "valid U.S. passport with at least six months before it expires".

One of the good things about being an American is that international travel is very easy. I would recommend that you don't make it needlessly difficult unless you only plan on using it for local tourist countries (some of which will just accept your driver's license).

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"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero

Airlines wouldn't let him fly out of the US unless he had a

valid international passport. They would take his money and tell them they were very sorry but they cannot, under international law, issue him with a boarding pass.

easy travel

I agree that int'l travel is eased with a USA passport.

One exception is Brazil, which now specifically screens for USA passports and requires those people to go through extra hoops such as fingerprints. Tit-for-tat -- just like the USA requires from everyone visiting the USA.

Back to the subject of this thread, I would also question why the person doesn't want the USA passport. I have taken to carrying my passport more frequently and using it for ID, in place of the state issued ID. Unlike the state ID, the passport has no address. Also, I renewed my passport early to beat the RFID chip by a few months.

This will raise a few flags and get you "Selectee" status

I heard you can disable the RFID chip by nuking it in the microwave. This is how Cheney's brain was disabled.

Passports are the domain of

Passports are the domain of the federal government under our constitution, but merely applying for a USA Passport with the standard DS-11 (whether supplying an SSN or not) leaves one with many undesirable presumptions in their administrative record. First and foremost, the definition of US for US Citizen is the federal jurisdiction United States: Washington D.C., and the territories, as defined in Title 8 USC and CFR (combined to get all of the legal weasel words defined). Second, the US National option is also undesirable as Mike pointed out below, that is reserved for those born and or living in Swain's Island or American Samoa (there are 2 different types of national defined in Title 8, thus the potential for presumption and an excuse for a quick but incorrect form letter delaying passport issuance). If you don't redefine these terms of art and clarify your citizenship/nationality and domicile, you will be agreeing to move your domicile to Washington D.C., not a good place to be for the assertion of constitutional rights and the separation of powers. Third, the forms of ID requested are specifically designed to associate you with an SSN, proof that you are a statutory citizen, recipient of government benefits, participant in federal franchises, and self-elected government officer (A.K.A Title 26 employee). Please see my previous posts in this thread for more in depth resources discussing citizenship and application for passports.

republic

This is complicated

I was born in a US Airforce base hospital in California. Which am I?

IMissLiberty

Was your dad born in a

Was your dad born in a de-jure state or on federal territory? If he is a constitutional US Citizen born in one of the 50 states, then you are a constitutional US Citizen, regardless of where you were born. However it is highly likely that you have elected to become a statutory US Citizen through perjury statements on SS-5, W-4, 1040, 1099, jury summons, voter registration, and drivers license forms. The US government is always happy to have another statutory citizen/officer which they can tax.

About citizenship:
http://famguardian.org/Su...

Why you are a government officer for income tax purposes:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Mem...

republic

Hey Republic, we always agree, but I wanted to add this

Even if the dad or mom was born on federal territory. This is a response I personally received from Famguardian some time ago. First my question, then their response:

QUESTION
Hello,
I am in the process of releasing and terminating my accounts with Social Security (SS is VERY slow to respond to my requests), Drivers license etc...And while applying for a passport it asks if either of my parents are a U.S. Citizen....I recently learned that my dad was born in Washington D.C... So while trying to follow the opinions of famguardian (why you are a national Table 7 pg 41) I couldnt find the appropriate "title"
I believe I am a state national of Michigan.
my status is one parent born in washington d.c. (father), one parent born in michigan, I was born in michigan.
My Father who was born in Washington d.c. lived there shortly as a kid, but never resided there.
Please help
Thanks

ANSWER
Those born anywhere in the American union, including federal territory, but who are not domiciled on federal territory but rather in a state of the Union are non-citizen nationals. Municipal domicile and not place of birth determines whether one is a statutory U.S. citizen pursuant to 8 USC 1401. Those domiciled on federal territory, whether they are born in a state or on federal territory, become statutory "U.S. citizen" and NOT non-citizen nationals.

Why bother? Unless you're a "national"

Section 308 of the Immigration and Nationality Act:

Unless otherwise provided in section 301 of this title, the following shall be nationals, but not citizens of the United States at birth:

(1) A person born in an outlying possession of the United States on or after the date of formal acquisition of such possession;

(2) A person born outside the United States and is outlying possessions of parents both of whom are nationals, but not citizens, of the United States, and have had a residence in the United States, or one of its outlying possessions prior to the birth of such person;

(3) A person of unknown parentage found in an outlying possession of the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in such outlying possessions; and

(4) A person born outside the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a national, but not a citizen, of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than seven years in any continuous period of ten years -

(A) during which the national parent was not outside the United States or its outlying possessions for a continuous period of more than one year, and

(B) at least five years of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

The proviso of section (301(g) shall apply to the national parent under this paragraph in the same manner as it applies to the citizen parent under that section.

Section 302 of Public Law 94 - 241:

Any person who becomes a citizen of the United States solely by virtue of the provisions in Section 301 [applying to those born in or residing in the Northern Mariana Islands] may within six months after the effective date of that Section or within six months after reaching the age of 18 years, whichever date is later, become a national but not a citizen of the United States by making a declaration under oath before any court established by the Constitution or laws of the United States or any other court of record in the Commonwealth in the form as follows " I _____ being duly sworn, hereby declare my intention to be a national but not a citizen of the United States."

Mike, you might want to

Mike,
you might want to bone up on the difference between statutory US citizenship and 14th Amendment Constitutional citizenship and what the difference means in terms of subjection to the two different types of jurisdiction that our constitution defines.

Title 22 USC covers passports and application, but you have to go to Title 8 to find the definitions used in Title 22. The definition of United States is the statutory US, i.e. D.C. and the territories. You don't want to be that kind of US Citizen because they are domiciled in D.C. and have only civil rights, and are not protected by the constitution. Congress has plenary power over statutory US citizens. So since you can't retain your rights and apply for a passport as a US Citizen (as undefined on the DS-11 form) you must modify the DS-11 or define what US Citizen means.

An attachment to a standard DS-11 which prevents false presumption and the kidnapping of one's citizenship and domicile to federal territory:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Avo...

A primer on citizenship:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Mem...

republic

Here you go

http://famguardian.org/Su...

Make sure that you don't connect to a federal franchise or the SSN nexus with any of the identification that you use. Most state IDs are tied to a SSN. I will look to see if I can find a franchise free photo ID that has been used successfully in the past. You attach a passport photo and get it notarized, and it is a self authenticating state issued ID, free from any ties to the SSN or other federal franchise.

republic

Thanks

I'll look through that. I'm a bit confused as to some of the issues surrounding where your parents are from and if they are us citizens or not, but I'm going to do some more research. Thanks again for the prompt response!
--Andrew

Citizenship

andrewh,
I understand that the citizenship issue is one with which many patriots struggle. The clearest and most consistent (with regard to the organic documents, statutes, and legal rulings) exposition I have seen on the subject is put together by the folks at famguardian.org, available via SEDM.

http://sedm.org/Forms/Mem...

It is a detailed document, but when you understand the contents, you will gain an insight into how our country got into the present situation despite our constitutional limitations on government. Understanding citizenship and domicile/residency is essential to preserving one's liberty and an integral part of avoiding government franchises.

Furthermore, the contents provide the building blocks upon which a successful defense of your rights my be based in the event that a government bureaucrat wishes to delay or deny your right to travel. In order to understand how the government uses presumption to kidnap you and transfer your domicile to Washington D.C. (thus subjecting you to their plenary power), you must understand the differences in citizenships and how one can move between them (purposively, or accidentally/through ignorance and deceit). The information contained may be useful for challenging subject matter jurisdiction, and avoiding harmful presumption which may damage your rights. I can not stress enough how important I think this information is.

republic

Government Issued Identity Affadavit

andrewh,
I found the state issued ID which is not connected to any franchise at the following location:

http://sedm.org/Forms/Avo...

I understand that the USA Passport Application Attachment, which has been used successfully in the recent past now has this affadavit included as well.

http://sedm.org/Forms/Avo...

Which ever way you choose to apply for your passport, I cannot stress enough that you should study the law and understand the implications of the legal terms (including words which would appear to have a common meaning). Hopefully you have some time to get the background necessary to make an informed decision. In the worst case, you can reapply as a non-citizen national / constitutional citizen with a new DS-11 when you have the time to comprehend the law and the consequences of your actions. Just make sure to not link the new passport to any old or expired passport via the DS-11 or any attachments to the passport application. Good luck, I wish you well on your endeavor.

republic