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Do Churches Make The Laws or Should We Reclaim Our Own Responsibility?

Though it is very true that churches have all the freedom to speak out to their parishioners, at the same time they do in fact have what is called, 'undue influence'.

I honestly don't believe people really understand this.

In reference to the 1802 letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists about their concerns that the 'State' could override them caused much anxiety to the churches in the early colonies because of what took place in Europe prior to coming to America.

If the King said you are all to be 'Church of England', you had two choices. Either you were Church of England or you burnt as a heretic at the stake. So America was free in that way and soon the Mayflower found its way to our shores.

The 1st amendment states clearly the State may not infringe upon the church, but the church may infringe upon the government. That is what Jefferson explained to reassure the church.

But today, like many other Americans and Canadians, I believe we have a different problem with churches and our founders didn't see it coming.

Today churches have become the very instruments of getting people to 'override' their own sovereignty!!!!

Churches have undue influence because human beings attend church innocently seeking guidance for their moral/ethical/spiritual choices in their day to day lives.

Those who are ministers, priests, pastors, chaplains, etc. wear the powerful mantle of what passes today for that which is spiritual.

In their weakness, people have the propensity to 'give over' that very responsible work that is the very essence of 'sovereignty': 'thinking these things out for themselves'! Applying questions of morality to the policies their own churches put out.

Does it not empower churches to be the 'repository' of what is otherwise the inherent responsibility of each American? Therefore, do they not function like a 'central bank' who, in place of 'money', has become instead the repository of 'individual personal responsibility'? Is this not what empowers churches essentially?

Many churches who receive IRS non-profit status are supposed to give up their freedom to speak freely to their parishioners in exchange for not paying taxes, yet they ignore this for the most part.

Not that I support the Federal Reserve or the IRS, I consider them both to be based upon 'unsound reality' and Unconstitutional, but churches attempt to have their cake and eat it too.

I believe human beings are extremely vulnerable to the 'archetype' of one who appears as holding authority. Archetypes have a very, very powerful hold on our subconscious minds. If a priest says "Abortion is morally wrong. It is the killing of a human being", does this not stir the 'moral indignation' of people to rally and declare abortion 'criminal'? Do they not have the backing of their church who said so?

In that Sunday environment, are there other voices that the people hear who may disagree with the minister and argue how this view may be incorrect so that people may have a choice? Of course not. And that is what 'undue influence' is.

Why did G-d in its infinite loving intelligence make Woman the vessel of potential life if she and she alone is NOT the one to decide to birth or not to birth? Historically, has the church not held a low opinion of women in general? For a long time they believed women had no souls!

A woman who finds she has become a 'mother' must she not be the ultimate one to decide if she feels this child would not be able to thrive in such a world? We know that if she felt the child was not conceived in Love and she had no support from the one who helped make the babe, she may not wish to bring a new human being into this world. Is this not her perogative?

Naturally the anguish and anxiety this causes is enormous. Most times women choose abortion. Adoption may become even more painful knowing they 'abandoned' their child somewhere out in the world and she doesn't even know if the child fared well or not or simply ended up abused by a stranger.

Who are we to judge, when only G-d judges. Are we not to forgive those who feel the need to abort? In many cases, are we being asked to hate those who choose abortion and despise the doctors who assist these mothers to abort? Some churches even go this far. Some doctors have been murdered because of this.

I have used 'abortion' as an example of how churches are instruments of the laws that pass after which we get to experience the consequences of those bad 'laws' and their 'unsoundness'.

Just replace abortion with: The Invasion of Afghanistan/Iraq, or The War On Drugs, or The War On Terror, or Billions $ must go to Israel and you will see how it is that we ended up in this mess in the first place.

Was it not churches that got people to give up 'educating their children' to the Federal government in the 1950s and 1960's during the civil rights movement? Did this not override parental responsibility of their own children and yet this was hinged with racism and 'equality'? As a result of 'guilt' created by churches, did the parents not 'give over' this extremely important responsibility that would ensure their children were fully educated as Americans?

In the end who benefited? Did Black people benefit? Or did the Federal government benefit especially being able now more than ever to 'dumb down' the population with stupid programs like, 'No child left behind'. Is this not one of the stupidest programs ever. Would you submit your child to this?

Is peer pressure not a powerful drug? You bet it is. As peer pressure takes place in the churches, it also takes place in the political parties. So few Americans complain about such blatant coercions and they should!

Only churches can get people to override their own sovereignty. Think about this.

Do you think politicians can do this? NO! Politicians carry the archetype of the sychophant, not the priest. People despise politicians.

Politicians rely on the priests and ministers to convince the people that by overriding their own sovereignty they are doing the 'right' thing.

And this is how self interested groups like the Council on Foreign Relations/Tri-Lateral Commission have gotten their way all these years and has served to transfer 'power' to the United Nations who really call the shots nowadays. They have succeeded in getting the churches under their wing. Wine them. Dine them. Invitations to their lectures etc., and probably worse.

Is this not how our Constitution has been overridden? Is this not how our neighbors have been made into politically correct enforcers of that which is morally/ethically wrong and UnConstitutional but they will parrot what they heard from a minister last Sunday.

As far as I can see we still live in the 'Dark ages'. The difference is, back then the church leaders influenced the King. People had no power whatsoever.

However, since our Declaration in 1776 spelled out our sovereignty to the world, and enforced its recognition by Washington and his revolutionary soldiers, and our Constitution was put in place to protect that, we are the ones they 'counsel' so fervently since then.

Not until most of the common man/woman reclaims their personal responsibility unto themselves, will this world be free from coercion, war and crime.

After all, if Jesus were alive today, he most likely would rebuke everything most churches stand for and he would most likely end up in prison or be killed all over again. Be honest. Would he not?

My litmus test for a church is very simple. They must take a strong stand for our Constitution and preach consistently. Why? Because our Declaration and Constitution is essentially in harmony with what Jesus himself taught: Freedom from bondage in all its myriad forms, and property rights.

After all am I not a Queen in my own right? Are you not a King in your own Right? According to our Declaration that is exactly who we are! Kings and Queens in our own right.

Live it, animate it, and defend it with your very life. Demand it to be recognized pointing to the Declaration. Otherwise it simply won't exist in our reality.

We must remind our leaders that the Constitution trumps churches and all other self interested organizations.

If we are to be worthy of those founding documents, should we not question authority and their motivations?

Was it not Voltaire who said, "If they can get you to accept absurdities, they can get you to commit atrocities?

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Sorry to bump my own post, but I think its pertinent to the

discussion.

I am curious. Are others observing this too or am I the only one.

However, if others don't think this is worth discussing I'll let it go.