
Will Tea Partiers turn on each other?
Submitted by meekandmild on Fri, 11/20/2009 - 08:50
Kenneth P. Vogel Kenneth P. Vogel – Thu Nov 19, 11:41 pm ET
After emerging out of nowhere over the summer as a seemingly potent and growing political force, the tea party movement has become so rife with internal feuding over philosophy, strategy and money that some supporters fear it will disintegrate before realizing its full potential.
The grass-roots activists powering the movement have become increasingly divided on core questions such as whether to focus their efforts on shaping policy debates or elections, work on a local, regional, state or national level or closely align itself with the Republican Party, POLITICO found in interviews with tea party organizers in Washington and across the country.
Disagreements over those issues have spawned personal and institutional rivalries, at least one highly contentious lawsuit and — perhaps most significantly — resulted in the splintering of local, regional and national groups into a patchwork of hundreds of smaller groups that occasionally seem to be working at cross-purposes.
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The short answer is YES!
They are not educated YET. It is up to us on the DP and every Ron Paul site to do this job. Hope we don't give up.
An Oath once taken must live for Eternity!
Has Ron Paul ever really
Has Ron Paul ever really been a part of the Tea Party movement? From what I've experienced it was called Meet-Ups back when he ran for president. Then a lot of people in Hollywood and Glen Beck organized the "Tea Parties" which never really included us Paulites to a large extent.
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Remeber one of the
Remeber one of the fundraisers for the Ron Paul campaign was called a tea party. The one we had 16th of decemeber i think
Oh yeah! I forgot about that
Oh yeah! I forgot about that one, well I still think there's a difference in ideas between the two groups. I mean there is even on this site - but from what I've seen on TV, the tea partiers are a lot more disorganized as far as their message. I don't think you can say they agree with us on all three of these...
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patchworks of movements are the way to go
When the liberty movements get organized on a large scale there will be spooks and infiltraiters.Educate and spread the word to friends ,family and neighbors!-small pieces of socialism will eventually turn into communism-
small pieces of socialism will eventually turn into communism
Pro Peace
rallies. That will solve a huge tax burden and a host of other issues. Tea parties have been taken over by neo cons and the GOP. They are worthless. We go pro-peace, pro-civil liberties or the Liberty movement dies. That simple.
If we keep our message clearly
pro-liberty and pro-peace domestic and foreign, there is no counter argument
that can hold us back.
tea parties are the BEST way
tea parties are the BEST way to educate people.
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Bah!
The mainstream and politicians trying to score brownie points love to shove their noses in those "patriot movements" so they can emerge as the new star. One thing they don't seem to understand that as soon as they go in they stink up the whole place. And then freedom lovers either kick them out before the stench goes everywhere or they just move on to organize something else, with those rascals sitting there by themselves.
Real freedom movements are NOT organized, organized movements never worked, and never will! Because they get corrupt before you know it. They get very bureaucratic and serve the interest of a few people who are control freaks, love attention (because their parents didn't pay them any when growing up) - people like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Obama, Clinton, the list goes on. These people are sick people, psychologically unstable.
True resistance is decentralized, there isn't one head to chop off. There are many heads.
For us, the liberty lovers, there's a job: any time there's a "tea party" we need to bring our fliers and educate those "tea partiers" about liberty, the Constitution, Ron Paul. These people should be easy targets for the liberty movement because if they're at the tea party they're obviously demanding answers and sick and tired of Uncle Sam.
It's the same old play from Rove's book of tricks.
Divide us into camps of weaker issues. They're playing with the "end the fed" issue but will frame it around pro war groups, the very same people that put Bush in office ( of course they put Obama in too). As long as we play along to make the movement bigger to include interventionists, the neo cons have won again.
Non intervention is the key, even Dr Paul said we have to make our differences known from the rest of the tea partiers when he talked to the Victoria newspaper.
Wishful thinking on the author's part.
Yes the Tea Parties are messy. Yes there's diversity, we not all bots of some iconic messiah. That's freedom: diversity in action.
And if the Tea Partes prove ineffectual, so what? the freedom movement has unlimited creative potential, largely still untapped. After the Tea Parties there will be even more actions that will rattle the Establishment.
"Yet, while some tout a
"Yet, while some tout a planned National Tea Party Convention in February (at which former Alaska governor and tea party darling Sarah Palin is listed as the keynote speaker) as a potentially unifying moment and others point to online coordination efforts, there is deep disagreement about what any national organization would look like and who would lead it. "
This has to be the most troubling paragraph in the whole article. they want to unite us under Sarah Palin. God help us
We knew that the TEA PARTY movement would be infiltrated...
and it is ! We also realize that by staying the course and opening a "unity" channel of communication...we can expose those who are sent to divide us. Trolls...Shills...Spin Agents...etc...they all stand out in the crowd to the experienced observer.
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The tea party movement as a
The tea party movement as a whole supports the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is little room for a noninterventionist foreign policy amongst their ranks. Let the movement divide and dissolve.
Ron Paul 2008!
Might appear to be that way, but if your for low taxes...
your not for supporting war. It would be contraditory in itself.
The folks I know who promoted the tea parties ( the original ... not the 912 thing ) are NOT supporters of the wars in Irak & Afganistan. Don't paint with such a broad brush...2,000,000 people turned out...all types & all visions. 90+% do not agree with the present status quo.
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This is so typical
The oldest trick in the book. Break them up into specific categories and then pit them against each other. They've gotten very good at it and unfortunately it works very well. Ultimately the key is don't let them categorize you and tell you who you are, and stand up for what you believe.
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE
Of course they will! In
Of course they will!
In 2012 it will be as follows:
Romney - The plastic bubblehead RINOs and Corporate America
Palin - The Neocons and the "Maverick" crowd
Huckabee - The Evangelicals and the anti-Northerners crowd
Etc. - The Fringe Neocons
Ron Paul - Us
The State Run Media is
The State Run Media is lying. They are afraid of the movement actually bearing fruit. Firt MSNBC and CNN attacked Stewart Rhoades of Oath Keepers and the Liberty Movement, they (DHS) went after Pastor David Manning, now they (State Run media) are attacking the Tea Party movement. Who's next? This is right out of the Communist Manifesto Playbook. Next thing you know they will go after Brett Favre! lol
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson
The Constitution is just a Goddamned piece of paper- G W Bush
State run what?
Just curious but what do u mean by "state run media"? Also its true MSNBC and Steward attacked and made fun of the Oath Keepers, but please explain how CNN attacked the Oath keepers.
One last thing, the tea party movement is a shame and its should be dissolved if so just to spare the credibility of the liberty movement. A tea party movement that doesnt see the need to invite Ron Paul to any of their national rallies is no tea party at all.
I really hope you reply back
I sure hope they turn on
I sure hope they turn on each other, then realize they're being used by the PTB.
Ron Paul 2008!
I think things are fine.
The grassroots have ALWAYS been diverse but what we had in common is that we realize the government is the problem. Just how to proceed from that point is in question. If the groups all break up that is ok as long as we still view the government as the problem.
I think the Mainstream wants them to unite
so they can focus on one "group" to tear down. As of now they have a diverse fight on there hands. I think the two outlaw parties see their reign coming to an end with the diverse "tea party".
did you notice no mention of Ron Paul or C4L?