Interesting information of director of Avatar, 33rd degree mason James Cameron
Submitted by gratefulgraft on Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:54
I think the relationship with the secret societies, mind and media control... are significant. I heard an interview with James Cameron where he described his new technology of the 3d (in Avatar) as ground breaking and able to activate the mind as never before and the future of this technology is going to take over all visual media.
here is a bit of his background with masonry, Bush...
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1997 March 13. While still shooting "Titanic," Director James Cameron secretly traveled to Arizona to become a 32nd Degree Mason at the Masonic lodge in downtown Phoenix, on March 13th, 1997. While Cameron was receiving his initiation into the 32nd degree from his Law of One allies, millions of people witnessed a large V-shaped formation of "lights" over the city of Phoenix. Phoenix is just north of 33? North Latitude. Its ancient name was "Fenex." As historical reminders, many sites sacred to the Law of One are located in the vicinity of 33°? including as well as the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt which are patterned after the belt stars of "Orion".
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1998 March 23. Director James Cameron was inducted as a 33rd Degree Freemason at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles with an informal ceremony. Cameron's induction took place in a small room inside the Shrine while celebrities and movie stars were filing inside for the March 23, 1998 Academy Awards. Later, on his birthday Cameron formally became a 33rd Degree Freemason in the Supreme Council 33rd Degree Temple in Washington, D.C. Cameron is a leading "light" for the military-industrial-Hollywood complex, formerly the "military-industrial complex" which President Eisenhower had warned against in his 1961 Farewell Address.
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1998 On November 5, 1998, the movie "Titanic" began playing in Houston, Texas. The special showing debuted TheatreVision technology. Houston is south of the 30th degree of north latitude. However, the beginning time of the showing is significant: it began playing at 3:33 p.m. At least two attendees were 33rd degree Masons: Director Cameron and former President George Bush. Bush was a member of the secret society "Skull and Bones" when at Yale. A former director of the CIA, he is in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. After Bush took over the CIA in 1974, having been appointed by 33rd degree Mason President Gerald Ford, he destroyed or hid MK-ULTRA (CIA mind-control) projects. The TheatreVision technology may be a new generation of MK-ULTRA mind-control. Bush is alleged to have been involved in the smuggling of drugs from Central America to the U.S. in the 1980s and when President, he publicly uttered the words "New World Order" in front of the entire world. http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine/vol14/articles/ma...
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I saw the movie and thought
I saw the movie and thought it was great. The 3d was spectacular and I am still avowed die hard patriot. The story was not unlike the story of the American Indians and a host of other cultures destroyed for commercial military gain. It's an old story.
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Hawk: I don't see why more people don't get that
I agree with some (given our sensitivity on the issue) there were "Al Gore-esque" save the earth overtones -- or some "white men" are evil top-notes.
Al Gore is a Corporatist, but that does not mean we shouldn't try and "save" (or clean up) the enviroment.
I for one do not want petroleum by-products in my food nor washing off all the top soil, owing to overt farm lobbying water use.
The difference between myself an Al is that I want the free-market to dictate -- get rid of gov't subsidies and most of the industries that the hippies rail against would not be able to compete with the simplistic organic/biodynamic farming methods.
I thought Avatar was great and like you I did not lose my sense of individualism in the process, hahaha.
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That's a mighty big haystack you've got there
Hope you find your needle.
Put down the Bong and Cheetos son...
I saw that ad in the paper too! It said "need brick work but have no cash?" "33 free masons available to help!"
Next to that ad was a listing for movies playing that afternoon and "Avitar" was scheduled to play a 3:30 that day!
Go sleep it off son! your blurry eyes, along with the heavy fog in the room would be enough to confuse anyone! The paranoia will subside soon...hang in there with it and then get some help!
"I AM NOT ANTI-GOVERNMENT...I'M AGAINST THE CRIMINALS WHO HAVE INFESTED, CAPTURED AND EXPLOITED IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE GOVERNED!" me!
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm
Go to this page, which will explain that Cameron is NOT a Scottish Rite Mason, 33rd or any other degree. Please stop spreading false information about the Freemasons. Thank you.
I watched this Movie and I liked it A LOT -and- I find myself
able to still believe in Individualism.
Maybe he wanted to make a good and visually stunning utopia that consumers would like, to make a profit (cause that's a good thing)?
Most people in Hollywood are Liberal-Libertarians -- it's only the executives that are Progressives.
Not all members of the NWO are fully convinced or drank a vat of coolaid.
People "associate" primarily because the associations gives them one of three primary things: 1) Greater Mating Potential, 2) Greater Wealth, and 3) Greater Security.
Self-Preservation
Proliferation of Sperm/Ovum
Self-Defense
I loved the movie, I will buy the DVD, and I'd love to live on Pandora -- be 9ft tall, have amazing healing ability-agility-perception, and connect (comcast like) to plants-trees-animals.
It's a fun fantasy.
---Relax
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More evidence!!!!111!!!one!!1
32. There is an "a" in FreemAson. There is are "a"s in "JAmes CAmeron"!!!!!! Also with the letter "M", and two "e"s both. Also, "CamerON" and "FreemasON" -- they rhyme! (Shocking how we didn't see the TRUF!)
33. James Cameron was once 33-years-old. And 33 degrees latitude! 33!
34. This is stupid.
Please provide evidence that Cameron is a Freemason.
We say he is not, nor has he ever been, a Scottish Rite Mason. Stop spreading false rumors about the Masons. Thank you.
You
can find a little bit of truth in every lie.
gold is where you find it .
You could say "the moon is
You could say "the moon is made of broccoli" and there's no truth whatsoever to that statement.
atoms
Brocolli is made of atoms. The moon is made of atoms.
James Cameron is a freemason? Whoopteedoo. I'd join the freemasons. Sounds like a good place to play poker on Fridays, and maybe meet some interesting people.
But the moon is not made of
But the moon is not made of broccoli atoms.
deleting a triple . . .
post--
anyone know why this happens?
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
it looks like another situation where . . .
we aren't going to be able to get at the truth--
I am still suspicious of how 'ardent' those who have seen it are about the movie--
very suspicious, very wary.
Those who have seen Avatar seem almost to have had a 'religious' experience.
I see youtubes on here all the time that impress me and make me feel that I've seen something significant, but I don't 'swoon' over them--
or almost swoon--
that is the report I get about Avatar--
so I am wondering; that is all.
I am not trying to damage people who are innocent Masons. I know that there are all sorts of different people in all sorts of different organizations. There may be good masons; there may be scary ones; I don't know. To my knowledge I have never met a Mason.
So--
that said, I wonder why the original poster had to be so quickly and swiftly 'dealt' with--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
triple post--
deleting--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Avatar had great graphics but..
I could have done without the Al Gore written script. Worship the earth, everything has a soul, blah blah blah.
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http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/archives/195724.asp
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33 Degree Mason
33rd degree entitles a Mason to special ceremony whereby he enters a candle-lit chamber filled with 33 Masons clad in red velvet robes, disrobes, kneels, and is struck 33 times on the behind with a 33 ounce ping-pong paddle.
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This is so much BUNK --- its 3 bunks and you are out!
Bunk,
bunk,
bunk,
bunk, and still more bunk.
The mind controller is those that love to distort, insinuate, and scare people.
Cameron's movie is anti-military industrial complex.
Phoenix lights were military flares.
This is just paranoia run amok. If only they could sit down and read this book.. "Why people believe weird things; Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time". Look it up on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/People-Believe-Weird-Things-Pseudoscie...
And while you are there, buy "Flim-Flam! Psychics, ESP, Unicorns, and Other Delusions" and "Galileo's Revenge: Junk Science in the Courtroom"
In peace & liberty,
Treg
Yes, please go back to
sleep.
We, your master-thinker scientific overlords have examined all the evidence, and there is no need to feel or think outside our parameters.....
I did hear an interview with the director
on PBS and he said the movie is NOT aimed at Obama's military policies. Don't forget how long it takes a major film to be made. It was positioned against Bush's war only, sadly.
Yes, if Cameron had to do it
Yes, if Cameron had to do it over given subsequent events, he'd probably make the invaders the good guys.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Perhaps this thread
should be put in the crazy, paranoid, freak section. Pathetic. Avatar was a GREAT movie with a simple message. It should be supported by all intelligent patriots. Period.
I like that movie Avatar....
...And I think the message of the creators and masons is very clear and valiant.
They want the mass suffering of the Palestinians to stop and for other tribes to be well cared for, by ending the stranglehold of the Military Industrial Complex.
Their message is one where peace can reign supreme, and there is no more need for an occupation to oppress people nor do we need these large machines to do the oppression.
We need to see what the Palestinian, the Iraqi, the Muslim and the Persian sees - we need to see both sides, and help both sides to end the conflict.
hmmm . . . read all responses, and . . .
whose word do I take about what a Mason is or isn't?
I feel more inclined to take the 'word' of someone who is suspicious.
"People" with whom I speak, even DPer types and libertarians . . . seem almost--
hypnotized by Avatar, and that kind of makes me stop and think and wonder--
makes me wonder--
so then I begin to question the motives of those who say, 'oh, don't stop and think about THIS!'--
hmmm . . .
I will tend to read the person who is most inclined to see a hidden agenda, because there is so much of that lately--
why would the actors involved (thinking National Treasure) have to be masons for it be a manipulated media presentation?
So, why are *you* in such a big hurry to discredit grateful graft, and why do *you* know so much about it anyway?
All things to consider.
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Freemasonry is deceptive and fraudulent
"Freemasonry is deceptive and fraudulent...Its promise is light—its performance is darkness" - President John Quincy Adams
“I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring.” - President John Quincy Adams
"The Masonic fraternity tramples upon our rights, defeats the administration of justice and bid defiance of every government which it cannot control." - President Millard Fillmore
"Masonry is a distinct and independent Government within our own Government, and beyond the control of the laws of the land by means of its secrecy and oaths and regulations which its subjects are bound to obey, under penalty of death." - Massachusetts Legislature, upon investigating the secret society in 1834
America's first "third party" - the Anti-Masonic Party.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/62031
I can find tons of bad things said about Ron Paul
There are plenty of quotes I could give bashing Ron Paul. I don't think I've read any that are true.
Should I list a bunch here and present them as evidence that Ron Paul is bad?
Even if I did it would not make them true. The same goes for the quotes you gave.
How about the slams Lyndsey Graham is leveling at Ron Paul supporters. He's in Congress, are you saying we should believe everything he says.
Oh wait, those quotes were from Presidents. They never lie or say anything biased, do they?
That's pretty poor spin
You're going to have to do better than that to get people to trust your opinion over early presidents - and the conclusions of legislatures at the time. Especially on this forum.
Then how about the opinions of other early Presidents
The early Presidents gave their opinions very clearly.
George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797
James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825
Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837
James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849
James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861
Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869
James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881
William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901
I could go on but then we'd be in the 20th century and not "early".
How about the signers of the Declaration of Independence?
Benjamin Franklin, Elbridge Gerry, John Hancock, William Hooper, Richard Stockton, Matthew Thornton, George Walton, William Whipple
The following named Signers have been referred to as members of the Fraternity by various Masonic writers, and in Masonic publications, but their Lodge affiliation is not known: Roger Sherman, Josiah Bartlett, Philip Livingston, Joseph Hewes, Robert Treat Paine, Thomas McKean, John Penn, Lyman Hall, William Ellery, Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Other signers who are known to have attened masonic meetings, but have not been verified in the records were Thomas Jefferson; John Adams; Benjamin Rush, Robert Morris; John Witherspoon; George Wythe; Francis Lightfoot Lee; Richard Henry Lee, and others.
That's at least 26 of the 56 signers. What about other patriots like Paul Revere?
It seems that the framers of our country had a favorable opinion.
Maybe all of those people's opinions should be taken over the opinions of the ones you listed.
Well then
give me some of THEIR quotes about Masonry...
How about political context of your hero Quincy
In 1824, the Andrew Jackson made a run for the Presidency and defeated his four opponents, but, due to lack of a majority, the race was forced into the Congress. Although ordered by the State of Kentucky to throw his support to Jackson, Representative Henry Clay, who had lost the election to Jackson, thumbed his nose at the order and threw his votes behind John Quincy Adams giving him the Presidency and Clay an immediate appointment to Secretary of State.
Seeing a political opportunity to permanently damage Andrew Jackson, who was elected and had served as Grand Master of the Tennessee Masonic Lodge in 1822 and 1823, President John Quincy Adams began a campaign of written opinions denouncing the organization and calling on its members to leave the lodges, in spite of the fact that Adams’ former colleagues George Washington and other American colonial leaders were members.
Adams was joined in his efforts by fundamentalist evangelists who tried to persuade the people that the Masonic fraternity was a diabolical organization.
For two years, the sentiment was pushed across the country by Adams and eventually led to the formation of the Anti-Masonic Political Party.
In 1828, however, the party had no real power base to support a candidate, but kept its message alive fueled by Adams’ support. Senator Andrew Jackson’s reforms had taken effect and the Tennessean went on to become the Seventh President of the United States and the first elected by popular vote to the office.
In the 1832 Presidential election, Democrat and President Andrew Jackson, Whig candidate Henry Clay (remember him?), and Anti-Masonic Party candidate William Wirt squared off in the campaign for President. The Anti-Masonic flames were fanned again at Jackson through the writings of Adams and Jackson’s record with the fraternity, but the Tennessean held onto his seat and won by a landslide.
Jackson would go on as President to make enemies. He led the fight to kill the Second Bank of the United States, put down the nullification crisis in South Carolina, and regularly opposed internal improvements at national expense. By the time Jackson stepped down and handed over the reins to Martin Van Buren, he had accomplished what no other had before him.
If you take off your blinders, you will see the entire thing was a political tool used by Adams in an attempt to hold on to the Presidency.
You're not giving me what I asked for
give me some quotes about Masonry from that long list of Masons.
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And of course, you omitted the most important event from the webpage you copied this info from:
"During this time a new controversy began taking place in the national arena that would affect American politics forever.
On March 13, 1826, William Morgan of Batavia, N.Y. signed a book contract for a publication he said would expose the Freemasons’ secrets. When word got out, a rogue group of men professing to be Freemasons burned the printer’s shop and threatened Morgan. When the New York author was jailed for non-payment of debts, a benefactor bailed him out, but Morgan was kidnapped off of the streets as he left the jail and never seen again. Five men later confessed that they had taken him to the old Fort Niagara, but that he had escaped. As the arrests were made and the men brought to trial, anti Masonic sentiments were enraged when it was discovered that the local judge, sheriff, and some jurors belonged to the fraternity."
(notice how this webpage also claims "Morgan escaped"...that tells me this is the Masonic version of history.)
http://www.tennesseehistory.com/class/Jackson.htm
I've danced this dance with you before
No amount of information is going to change your mind.
You love to point to "the Morgan affair" which was not a "Masonic attack". Even the quote you listed makes the men out to be rogues. And there is no proof they did anything because of some kind of book deal. Maybe the guy was an ass or a crook, at the very least he was a deadbeat. Perhaps his creditors had him attacked, ala loan shark methods of encouraging repayment.
In the 200 years since this happened this is the best "smoking gun" you can find? One guy in 200 years? Too bad Christianity and other religions that purport to be about peace don't have as good a record of non-persecution and non-violence toward others, or even their own, as the Masons do.
I do not feel inclined to drive in the brutal weather to our library at the Scottish Rite to collect early masonic writings for you. Even if i did, I know its pointless, you will never change your opinion.
No, YOU need to stop "dancing"
around the issue, giving lame excuses, and answer my inquiry. If you do produce enough solid "new" information, I might be inclined to change my view. Now, it shouldn't be too difficult for you, the supposed Masonic scholar, to find quotes on the net from the HUGE list of supposed Masons you tallied, that had something to say about Freemasonry....even assuming it's positive.
BTW, from what I've researched, we're fortunate enough to have the few snippets we DO have from what was written way back then..there was and has been a huge effort by the Masons to scrub the history books and now the internet of accurate historical info.
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"Elderly men and women, especially in the Northern States, will almost universally remember the murder of William Morgan by Freemasons, and many facts connected with that terrible tragedy. But, as much PAINS HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY FREEMASONS TO RID THE WORLD OF THE BOOKS AND PAMPHLETS AND EVERY VESTIGE OF WRITING RELATING TO THAT SUBJECT, by far the larger number of young people seem to be entirely ignorant that such facts ever occurred." - THE CHARACTER, CLAIMS AND PRACTICAL WORKINGS OF FREEMASONRY 1869, Rev. C. G. FINNEY
http://www.gospeltruth.net/1869Freemasonry/indexfreemasonry.htm
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If you are interested, find
If you are interested, find out where the nearest Masonic temple is, then either go there or call and ask for yourself. It's disturbing that anyone should feel like they cannot investigate something for themself or simply talk to other people in person to get their point of view. Freedom is all about thinking for yourself and that can't happen if you leave the job of supplying all the answers to someone else. Call or visit and let everyone here know what YOU found out. Good luck, intrepid freedom fighter.
and, no, I don't *know* gratefulgraft; I haven't seen any of . .
*his* posts before, to my knowledge.
I just think it's so interesting that he must be discredited--
so 'handily'--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Has nothing to do with me (she) whatsoever. :)
There are many in this world who choose not to see the plans and purposes behind the scenes, as there are many who think they see the boogie man behind every corner. I for one have studied much about the masons and other groups like skull and bones, order of the garter... and do believe what their own writings explain about their desire to control the masses and bring about a new world order. If it were only for the fact that those who belong to these societies cover their own over those whom they are to serve, that is important for us to know as citizens. I came across the info of Cameron being a mason, and for me, it is relevant, but could possibly be inaccurate. Interesting information and heads up, thats all. Perhaps it will get us all to study up more on the workings of mind control, blue beam, mkultra... and not be caught unawares. TV, movies, media... all in the ultimate plan to sway public opinion and lull the masses to sleep, you bet! regardless if there is a masonic boogie man or not. Eyes wide open is not a bad idea, but to slander Cameron was not my intention.
This Info About Cameron May Or May Not Be True...
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm
Famous Hollywood movie director James Cameron has been 'linked' by some anti-Masonic conspiracy-minded folks as having received the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite in some sort of secret ceremony during an Oscar Award presentation. Their claims, of course, totally ignore the fact that 'secret presentations' of that honor simply do not occur. All recipients of the award are announced publicly at the annual Scottish Rite meeting the year before the award is actually presented. The presentation is done at the next annual meeting. Since printed proceedings of both Annual Sessions are sent to thousands of Masonic bodies throughout the world, a simple review of them would clearly show no such presentation. In fact (perhaps ironically?) the Supreme Council in March, 2000 advised that there is not even a member within their organization named "James Cameron". An additional check has been made with the General Secretary of the Oakland Scottish Rite Bodies who also advised that James Cameron is not now and has never been a member of the Oakland Scottish Rite Bodies. The next time you see such information, ask the claimant to produce evidence that James Cameron is a Scottish Rite Mason. We'll bet they can't....
But we're pretty confident that they'll tell you it's all part of some secret conspiracy - although why a movie director would play such an important role is mind-boggling!
Oh - and since Jerry Bruckheimer produced a film with Nicholas Cage with a Masonic theme ("National Treasure"), we regularly get questions asking if one or the other (or both) are Masons. Answer: NO!
And despite the fantasy of some, there is no Masonic jurisdiction that has 'secret' initiations. Were either of these men to join, it would be trumpeted throughout the Masonic press everywhere and would come to this site's attention well before the event. There would be no reason for them to hide their membership.
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Proves my skepticism
The whole thing sounded bogus from the start. I did not have time to make phone calls, but several things are just plain wrong in the story.
First are the dates. The date he was supposedly "given" his 32nd degree was a Thursday. The process of getting the degrees takes 3 to 4 days and is held to have Saturday and Sunday as the final two days.
It takes at around 20 people to "give" the degrees, so one or two weeknights followed by the weekend enables people to attend without taking time off of work.
Another problem is the date of the supposed 33rd degree at the Shrine Auditorium almost exactly one year later. This is never done this quickly. You must be 32nd degree for 46 months before you are eligible for what I will call 32.5 degree. After that another 46 months before you are eligible for 33rd. During that 92 months you must be very active and committed.
There were other problems with the story that I won't go into, but those were some obvious ones to me.
I know first hand what I am talking about.
I am a Master Mason, a 32nd Degree in the Scottish Rite, and a Shriner.
Not sure what I think about
Not sure what I think about Cameron, but this statement they made is strange:
Why is it so mind-boggling? Movies have a huge impact on our culture today as they have often replaced books as the primary source of thought and culture (for good or for ill... probably the latter). Movies have been steadily driving our culture for decades, and they often shape the way people look at the world. When engrossed in that culture, it can seem sometimes that the movies are even more real than reality itself, and you start to think of the characters as real people. I speak from experience here. When I realized that the memories from movies were growing more strong than my memories from my actual life, I knew that I had to step away.
Movies are powerful, and Cameron's movies have been exceptionally so. Would it not make sense for the New World Order to try to use this medium to control and guide the masses?
I guess I just can't see how
I guess I just can't see how thinking like this is gping to help. To paraphrase Freud, "sometimes a movie is just a movie".
Good Call khomar....
but I don't really care one whit about the movie,Cameron,or Hollywood because all it is doing is screwing up the board and I just want it to stop. In my opinion movies are mostly crap anyway that robs you of your hard earned money and it's a momentary escape like sports.Granted every once in a blue moon a movie comes out of that hellhole that is uplifting or noteworthy but they are really rare and I can count them in the last ten years on my digits....the movie industry for the most part died in the late 50s early 60s in my book...
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"Movies have been steadily driving our culture for decades, and they often shape the way people look at the world."
True mostly to destroy western culture...
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Avatar is a GREAT movie.
I've seen Avatar. And I'm sorry, Grateful, but you really ought to check it out before venting. For someone you smear as part of the military-industrial complex, Cameron has delivered a truly powerful and persuasive anti-war story. He defends property rights and absolutely NAILS the military-industrial complex as total villains. Notice how the heroic Na'vi in the movie are branded "terrorists." And how the Standard Operating Procedure of the military-industrial complex is clearly exposed with a few well-chosen words (which I don't recall exactly but which amount to: If somebody's got something you want, make them your enemy, demonize them, and send in the troops.)
Now, there is also a lot of stuff in this movie that could be regarded as Green propaganda: the whole biosphere of the world of the Na'vi is actually connected by a sort of Earth Mother. To which I can only say: ours isn't. So that particular lesson doesn't translate well to our world. The anti-war message, however, remains loud and clear.
Furthermore, it's a fun, beautiful and exciting movie. Give yourself a break from ranting about the evil conspiracies, and go see it. And you really do owe Cameron an apology.
Smearing?
With all respect dabooda, I was neither venting, nor smearing. I too have seen Avatar, and did find it an enjoyable movie, so much so as to want to talk to everyone afterwards about how our nation dares to support and occupy nations and destroy their lives and way of life (aka Afganistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Palestine...), which does indeed cause blowback. I don't see the whole conspiracy towards the green propaganda either, as for me I think all all people should regard nature and those who live off the land. I totally disagree with the Devy article.
BUT, hearing Cameron's interview on NPR was unsettling because of the way he touted his 3d technology and was so willing to give his secrets away for free to other directors and how it affects the mind in a totally new way, and he said how in the future movies without this technology will be as rare as black and white films, made me want to research him a little bit, for I did not know anything about him, and this info is what I found and was unaware of previously. It is not a rant nor a conspiracy to inform yourself and others if a politician, pastor, leader... is involved in a secret society, especially being a 33rd degree mason, where they take care of their own by sworn oaths, and that is a very important part of the elite vs. the masses. If you prefer to just see the movie and enjoy it without seeing what could be behind it, then feel free. If you do not want to research mind control, media control... that is your choice, but I do not owe Cameron an apology for informing others to him being a 33rd degree mason, that is his path, but we have a duty to seek truth and discern what "truth or method" could be being used to control. I was not accusing Cameron or Avatar as being involved in mind control, just that he is a 33rd degree mason, and have done research as to that agenda, which he certainly is well aware of, having gone that high in the organization.
just a little suspect...
since an infamous smear that still pops up against Ron Paul himself was that he was a Mason/Freemason-whatever and therefore was part of the NWO and Illuminati -- lol!!!!!
Haven't seen Avatar but I hear the anti-war etc. message is really great, which therefore makes me think highly of Cameron and that whatever organization he's in must be a good one.
No, I would not come to that conclusion of whatever organization
he is in must be a good one.
Here is a great article written by a DPer which explains much about mind control, masonry... and why and how the elites control the masses.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/116763
you seem extremely interested
in finding out something negative about someone who just put out a movie with a great message. Just curious why.
Were you previously aware that Ron Paul has been "smeared" with the Masonry link? Or this just happens to be a newfound interest...